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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: average joe who wrote (32067)	2/5/2011 10:09:13 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 36917

"Wind turbines have an embarrassingly low Energy Returned On Energy Invested value of 0.29" Close enuf for carbon pimp work. Actually, it's 20.0, but he got the 2 and one of the zeros, and 9 and 10 are next door to each other. For example, when oil was originally discovered, it took on average one barrel of oil to find, extract, and process about 100 barrels of oil. That ratio has declined steadily over the last century to about three barrels gained for one barrel used up in the U.S. (and about ten for one in Saudi Arabia).[citation needed] [1] Currently (2006) the EROEI of wind energy in North America and Europe is about 20:1[2] which has driven its adoption. en.wikipedia.org Oh, so very close. 7X better than new oil, 2X better than old Saudi oil? "Cest la vie", say the old folks, "it goes to show you never can tell."