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To: flptrnkng who wrote (5027)	2/10/2011 4:32:45 PM
From: scion	Respond to of 53574

Say it isn't so...the instant expert got it wrong, again? Justice37 is flat out wrong about the heat source. Par for the course. He has no idea what MLM is saying either... MorningLightMountain Share Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:54:01 PM Re: Rawnoc post# 92769 Post # of 92782 really??....interesting, so as suspected, it's probably even more than 1M BTUs (which was about the minimum with no thermal loses)....makes sense, since the laws of THERMODYNAMICS (not chemistry) states it takes a certain energy to raise a certain mass (depending on its "specific heat") a certain temp, and in real life it will always be greater than the theoretical minimum of my calculations (since I do not know the efficiency of the heat transfer on their process, and gave the benefit of the doubt at unrealistic 100%) lol indeed.....remember the scene from "My Cousin Vinny" about the guy who had different laws of physics in his kitchen when making grits??......he turned out to be fibbing, if I recall........ PS: of course, if they are actually processing less than 20 per day, less BTUs would be needed.... siliconinvestor.com Justice37 Share Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:19:49 PM Re: MorningLightMountain post# 92777 Post # of 92782 Checked it out for ya, BTU's were not mentioned, however, the processor runs on it's own fuel and when needed there is an extra tank. However, they are connected for commercial natural gas and at the very worst when this is used, the cost is $7 per hour. Again, normally it is $0 (uses own gas) or whatever electricity is used (66kW of electrical input to run all peripheral components such as the compressor, feeder, pumps, etc., or $5 per hour). siliconinvestor.com

To: flptrnkng who wrote (5027)	2/10/2011 5:36:28 PM
From: SteveF	Respond to of 53574

JBI will owe the DEC $13,000 as of today if that revised air permit app wasn't filed on time. If it was filed and the environmental assessment is overdue then as of today they only owe $5,000. 01/15/2011 - Revised air permit app due 02/01/2011 - Environment assessment form due 03/01/2011 - BUD application due PERIOD OF NON-COMPLIANCE PENALTY PER DAY 1st Day through 30th Day $500 31st Day through 40th Day $750 41st Day through 50th Day $1,000 51st Day through 60th Day $1,500 Each Day beyond the 60th Day $2,500