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To: tejek who wrote (600658)2/14/2011 1:00:15 PM
From: Tenchusatsu1 Recommendation  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1576160
 
Ted, I don't get why Nicholas Kristof is arguing against straw men:

> Too many Americans bought into a lazy stereotype that Arab countries were inhospitable for democracy, or that the beneficiaries of popular rule would be extremists like Osama bin Laden.

The only ones who believed that stereotype were left-wingers who opposed the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

Curiously, Kristof makes no mention of those two countries in his column. Maybe because the NYTimes editors wouldn't like giving the "neocons" an inch.

Tenchusatsu



To: tejek who wrote (600658)2/14/2011 1:13:27 PM
From: Brumar89  Respond to of 1576160
 
Iranians are in the streets ... let's hear your support for them.



To: tejek who wrote (600658)2/14/2011 1:15:50 PM
From: d[-_-]b1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576160
 
Stop treating Islamic fundamentalism as a bogyman and allowing it to drive American foreign policy.

So we should stop telling China what to do with political prisoners, workers wages etc since we should let radical muslims cut up women, stone them and cut hands off thieves?

Perhaps we should stop telling others what to do altogether and not single out muslim nations.



To: tejek who wrote (600658)5/30/2012 1:56:54 PM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation  Respond to of 1576160
 
Christians Should "Convert, Pay Tribute, or Leave," Says Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood Candidate?

by Raymond Ibrahim
May 30, 2012 at 4:00 am

"They need to know that conquest is coming, that Egypt will be Islamic, and that they must pay jizya or emigrate," Morsi reportedly said.

According to the popular Egyptian website, El Bashayer, Muhammad Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood presidential candidate, just declared that he will "achieve the Islamic conquest (fath) of Egypt for the second time, and make all Christians convert to Islam, or else pay the jizya," the additional Islamic tax, or financial tribute, required of non-Muslims, or financial tribute.

In a brief report written by Samuel al-Ashay and published by El Bashayer on May 27, Morsi allegedly made these comments while speaking with a journalist at the headquarters of the Muslim Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice Party, adding "We will not allow Ahmed Shafiq [his contending presidential candidate] or anyone else to impede our second Islamic conquest of Egypt."

After his interviewer pointed out that the first Muslim conquest of Egypt was "carried out at the hands of Amr bin al-As [in 641]," he asked Morsi, "Who will the second Islamic conqueror be?" Morsi, replied, "The second Muslim conqueror will be Muhammad Morsi," referring to himself, "and history will record it."

When asked what he thought about many Christian Copts coming out to vote for his secular opponent, Ahmed Shafiq, Morsi reportedly said, "They need to know that conquest is coming, and Egypt will be Islamic, and that they must pay jizya or emigrate."

If this interview is accurate, certainly Morsi would not be the first political Islamist in Egypt to say he wants to see the nation's Christians subjugated and made to pay jizya (see here for more examples).

However, considering that the English language media are currently reporting that Morsi is trying to woo Egypt's Christians and women to win more votes, it is difficult to imagine that he actually made those comments: one does not doubt that he favors the idea of a "second Islamic conquest" and the subjugation of Christians; one doubts that he would be so foolish as to reveal his mind now, publicly, and thereby jeopardize his chances of winning the presidency.

Then again, his remarks are reported in the context of a private meeting at the headquarters of the Brotherhood's political party. Perhaps Morsi thought he was speaking to a fellow Islamist who would not expose him? Perhaps he was frustrated at having to win Copts over and was "venting"? Stay tuned.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3083/egypt-christians-convert-pay-tribute-leave

Why have liberals stopped bragging about Obama's achievements in the ME?