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Microcap & Penny Stocks : Rocky Mountain Int'l (OTC:RMIL former OTC:OVIS) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Chip Anderson who wrote (17637)	11/13/1997 6:25:00 PM
From: John Gault	Respond to of 55532

Chip, Read 'ovis-shareholder cartel' thread. Listed under 'stocks 5 dollars and under'.

To: Chip Anderson who wrote (17637)	11/13/1997 7:02:00 PM
From: MichaelDP	Respond to of 55532

Welcome aboard Chip!!! By you reading so much of this thread you may have just enter the twilight zone...youwill find that time seems to compress and disapper on this board.....not to mention the nays seem to get constant bouts of amnesia and verbal um...whats a polite way to say diah...er...no that doesnt sound nice...well you get the point....welcome aboard!!

To: Chip Anderson who wrote (17637)	11/13/1997 7:10:00 PM
From: Yacht Trash	Respond to of 55532

Chip.....I tried to post to you earlier but had a system crash and it got lost. Anyhoo, no short course on this one but for starters click on ellen g's name and look for her newbies post. I didn't see it today but I recall she posted it a couple of times yesterday. Lots of good scoop on this there.....Don't try to read the OVIS/RMIL threads from Aug. or you will wind up on the drinkin thread before your time!!! Best to you and look forward to officially welcoming on board Garry :-)

To: Chip Anderson who wrote (17637)	11/13/1997 7:14:00 PM
From: Ditchdigger	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 55532

<please post a semi-concise summary> BELLS and WHISTLES wheres ELLEN! We demand a newbie post!! empire.umd.edu DD (please don't be offended)

To: Chip Anderson who wrote (17637)	11/13/1997 10:55:00 PM
From: Cavewoman	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 55532

<<Message from Chip Anderson on Nov 13 1997 5:44PM EST What an amazing thread this is! I'm new here and I just spent 3 hours reading parts of this thread - what a fascinating story! Great cast of characters: "Nays", TAs, empassioned crusagers, The Cartel, Certs, fake press releases, etc. However, I must confess that I am still unclear on exactly what is going on. Can someone (preferrably a non-Nay) please post a semi-concise summary of "the story so far..." so that newcomers like myself can decide if we want to participate or not? Is there a web site with more background info? Thanks in advance, Chip>> There once was a company called Olympus that manufactured sportswear. The CEO absconded with all the money and records. Enter Morgan to try to take the company back into the light. Try as he might the nasty MM's and other shorters kept trying to take the company to the cemetary and bury it. BUT Morgan was a fighter and wouldn't let go of the company so it could fall into the grave. Pull and tug, pull and tug with the shorts and Morgan. The company became productive and still the shorters kept trying to put it into the grave. Morgan was fighting for the life of the company. Along came Riley. He said that there was a way to get the shorts to stop. Morgan knew the way but couldn't do it since he was too close to the situation and loved the company too much. Riley was a veritable outsider and said that he could arrouse the masses to complain and call for their certificates. Something the shorts hate. The masses have been calling their certificates but it has been a hard struggle. The MM's and shorts are working with the brokers and other authorities to keep the certificates out of the hands of the masses. Then from the crack of doom came the nays. The nays were trying to make the masses believe that Riley and Morgan were selling them a bill of goods. The nays being charged with the energies of doom had power and the stamina that comes from the nether regions. Riley kepts fighting. Morgan kept telling truths. The nays kept naying. Then Morgan decided to cojoin with another company because that company wanted to be larger and the nays got agrivated. Now the company is called Rockey Mountain and has water and sporting clothes. And Riley and the masses continue to try to get their certificates. The nays just pulled more power from the crack of doom and nayed louder and started to get incoherant. The MM's continue to drive the value of the company down. But...the Morgan and the Riley and the masses continued to call for their certificates and drove the nays down. How's that for a start of the saga. Ginger/Block Island's Cavewoman still 100+posts to go

To: Chip Anderson who wrote (17637)	11/13/1997 11:31:00 PM
From: Ellen	Respond to of 55532

Newbies!! RMIL (formerly OVIS) FAQ (Part I) Please exercise due diligence before considering purchase of RMIL stock. This is not an invitation to buy stock in Rocky Mountain International Ltd. Anyone "in" or associated with the group of common shareholders actively following RMIL in this thread, regardless of affiliation to any shareholders clubs or organizations or position in the trade of RMIL stock or of any opinion whatsoever regarding this matter, cannot, should not, and does not recommend any action for or against the purchase or trade of any security publicly traded or otherwise. Read posts by RG here: Subject 16714 ******** Complaints to regulatory agencies haven't stopped the practice of undeclared short selling. However, one way companies can protect themselves is to recommend to shareholders that they take physical delivery of their stock certificates. When physical delivery of stock certificates is demanded by a significant number of shareholders, the creators of nonexistent stock can be squeezed. The short sellers won't have stock certificates to deliver and thus they will cause losses for them and will cause them to move their undeclared short activities elsewhere. ****** techstocks.com Company Web Sites: olympusventures.com goodbuys.com Contact Info (from Olympus Ventures WWW page): For all investor relations matters, including information kits please contact: Olympus Ventures, Inc. Corporate Offices 3418 North Ocean Boulevard Fort Lauderdale, FL 33308 Telephone: 954/565-9292 Fax: 954/565-8894 e-mail: ovisusa@aol.com Rocky Mountain International Ltd. If there are any questions you may contact 954/565-9292. A toll free investor relations telephone number of 1-800-555-4214 will be activated as of Friday, Oct. 9, 1997. RMIL is a manufacturer of pure spring and premium artesian bottled drinking water and garment manufacturing. RMIL is focusing its direction on manufacturing, distribution and retailing bottled water and physical fitness products, which the company believes is one of the fastest growing areas in the commercial marketplace. ------- Rocky Mountain Crystal Water label in March 1995. Rocky Mountain Crystal Water purchased the assets of Teton Bottling Company of Jackson Hole, Wyoming in early 1995. Teton Bottling Company has been bottling natural spring water under the Cheyenne Springs label since 1991. The Company has continued to bottle under this label and has an extensive following in Idaho, Wyoming and Montana. SEC filings: They tell mostly the story of how OVIS collapsed under old management, then Morgan and Breton came in and picked up the pieces. (Example: the shipping line referred to in the 9/96 press release has been written off now). freeedgar.com Growth plans: olympusventures.com Shares outstanding: From: Riley G Friday, Nov 7 1997 9:52PM EST Reply #15479 of 16024 Todays Numbers....partial updates... Total O/S issued: 3,371,081 Rule 144 Legend: 1,571,081 Total public float: 1,800,000 ==================================== Foundation Shares held: 2,945,105 Shares over public float: (1,145,105) Is there a reason why the NASDAQ short list for the month does not show a short position in RMIL? ? Nasdaq reports on Nasdaq stocks. IBM is not in the list, nor Amex stocks, nor BB or pink sheet stocks. nasd.com Transfer Agent Florida Atlantic Transfer 5701 N. Pine Island Rd. Suite 310B Tamarac, FL 33321 Phone: 954-726-4954 Free RealTime OVIS Quote: cbs.marketwatch.com Intra-day chart** dljdirect.com OUR CREDO IS: BUY patience CALL FOR THE CERTIFICATES patience HOLD patience VERIFY AND RE-VERIFY PROCESSING OF CERTIFICATES patience HOLD THROUGH THE MM TRICKS patience INCREMENTAL SELLING patience

To: Chip Anderson who wrote (17637)	11/13/1997 11:32:00 PM
From: Ellen	Respond to of 55532

Newbies!! RMIL (formerly OVIS) FAQ (Part II) Please exercise due diligence before considering purchase of RMIL stock. This is not an invitation to buy stock in Rocky Mountain International Ltd. Anyone "in" or associated with the group of common shareholders actively following RMIL in this thread, regardless of affiliation to any shareholders clubs or organizations or position in the trade of RMIL stock or of any opinion whatsoever regarding this matter, cannot, should not, and does not recommend any action for or against the purchase or trade of any security publicly traded or otherwise. techstocks.com techstocks.com techstocks.com techstocks.com techstocks.com techstocks.com techstocks.com techstocks.com techstocks.com Read the first 11 posts on the thread. techstocks.com techstocks.com techstocks.com techstocks.com techstocks.com techstocks.com techstocks.com techstocks.com techstocks.com techstocks.com techstocks.com techstocks.com techstocks.com techstocks.com techstocks.com Important Reading: forbes.com busadm.mu.edu * techstocks.com * techstocks.com * techstocks.com * techstocks.com * techstocks.com * techstocks.com * techstocks.com

To: Chip Anderson who wrote (17637)	11/13/1997 11:34:00 PM
From: Ellen	Respond to of 55532

From: Riley G Oct 2 1997 10:05AM EST Reply #76 of 4435 Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 08:50:35 -0500 Subject: naysayers Riley, There is an excellent article in the October issue of Forbes/ASAP on about page 104 regarding the use of the internet by shorters to drive down stock prices. The articly describes in eerie fashion a parallel of events happening in OVIS. Apparently, what is happening at OVIS is standard procedure for shorters/naysayers. The naysayers do what they do because it works. My reading of the article indicates that the best course of action is for vigilant and informed people (ovis shareholders who have done the dd and reseach to continuously respond to slander with factual information, while avoiding getting dragged into fights, arguments and speculation. This will help new investors see what is going on, who is credible and who isn't. Many humor the naysayers, or think they are just grouchy, amusing themselves, jealous. NO. People do things for reasons. It is a fact of life. The people bashing your stock are bashing it so that you will lose money and they will make money. Even if I am wrong about the naysayers being in cahoots with MMs, it still works out that since psychological factors affect stock prices, these people are hurting you by plying misinformation. My all time favorite post was the one implying that hand and hand are in cahoots with ovis, and that the fake news was all part of a grand conspiracy to make it look like ovis was under attack even though they secretly aren't. - Using this logic, my new theory is that Kugler, Aloha, McNeese et al. are actually long in OVIS, and post negatively, knowing that the effect of their bad mouthing OVIS will have a reverse psychological effect and drive up the price so they can cash out rich with their expensive OVIS. makes sense, right? It is not libel to post a reasoned opinion (an opinion that actually has some kind of conclusion based on fact) - my concluded opinion is that naysayers logically must have some interest in making OVIS look bad. This leads me to conclude that they are deceptive manipulators (read "liars"). Just my opinion. ----- Riley G

To: Chip Anderson who wrote (17637)	11/13/1997 11:35:00 PM
From: Ellen	Respond to of 55532

"Subject: Reasons Riley, feel free to post, not post, edit, change, etc. this message. As you are comm central and well informed, I have confidence in your decisions regarding relaying my sometimes too lengthy E-mails. Preponderance of evidence that OVIS will fly: 1. Massive naked short position. Simple arithmetic looking at past volume confirms this. Some people who count volume haven't even taken into account the die hard buy and holders from pre-split days (I am one of these and there are quite a few others). 2. Cartel rough figure estimates based on sharing of information by shareholders far outnumber the authorized float - so much so that even a massive degree of inaccuracy on the part of the cartel still outnumbers the authorized float. Early Cartel rough estimates which were low and didn't include non SI/Cartel supporters, don't even include the million or so shares bought and called for since last Fridays "call your cert message"! 3. More people are buying and calling certs every day. 4. Shares outstanding are confirmed by transfer agent. 5. Wildcard shares are locked up in treasury account and pension plan. 6. The company supports the investors and promises not to distribute more shares. 7. The market makers have requested more shares from the company who firmly replied "No way!". These are desperate actions that reveal much about the mms situation. It doesn't take a sherlock to see mm desperation in this request for more shares. 8. The market makers have manipulated the price drastically since profound interest in the stock and certificate calling have begun. If the market makers were doing fine as some have implied, they would not be dropping the ask on buys, passing over market orders to sweep up cheap shares, selling below ask limits to confound investors, etc. We have seen the price drop on buy/sell ratios of greater than 10 to 1. That is called unethical market manipulation, and if you are a mm, you don't risk doing it unless you are in incredible trouble. Here is a simple rule: MARKET MANIPULATION ON GROWING STOCKS = MARKET MAKERS IN TROUBLE 9. The preponderance of naysayers actually confirm the validity of the cartels position. We are forced to wonder, if the OVIS shareholders are such dupes, and we are going to loose so much money (save me please) why then the constant attacks by non-shareholders and people who haven't ever been heard from before. Why the new faces with misinformation? This had occurred to the degree of cartel members receiving threats. People don't threaten you just for being stupid. Once again, it doesn't take a sherlock to see the determination being mustered against a bunch of innocent investors simply legally calling for their certificates. Why are so many resources being marshalled to stop a bunch of investors from doing what is perfectly reasonable? Explain again why is it now that I shouldn't buy shares of a company I like and call for my certs? It is a good sign of mm desperation. here is another simple rule: UNSOLICITED AND UNSUPPORTED NEGATIVITY FROM STRANGERS WHO DON"T REALLY LOVE YOU = SCARED SHORTERS 10. Inherent value of OVIS. A couple weeks ago this stock sold for 19 cents. At 1.6 million shares it had a market cap of about 300,000 dollars. About the price of a nice single family dwelling. Get real. If this reflected OVIS value, Hard Core would have sued them for slander for even implying that they were doing a deal. Banks would have laughed at them when they asked for capital instead of setting them up with excellent financing. You can't start a halfway decent chicken stand for 300,000 dollars if you plan on having plates and silverware too. Ovis earnings, assets, tax credits, and client base are those of a company firmly worth a minimum of 2.50 per share, and that is if they were never ever planning on growing! Counting for growth,future profitability, common PE valuations etc, the company is worth around 15. There are companies that loose more money per share than OVIS costs per share that sell for 50+ dollars per share. Simple rule: Simple rule: COMPANIES THAT CAN CONDUCT BUSINESS DESPITE DEVALUED SHARES AND MARKET CAP HAVE EXCELLENT RESOURCES AND MANAGEMENT. 11. Past value of OVIS. BAck when this company had poor management, the market still valued it at prices that are dramatic multiples of it's current price. Most of you can't remember back when people were gobbling up millions of shares of OVIS at 14 cents per share PRE SPLIT! because the evidence for future profitability was there. Back then, 14 cents a share was considered a bargain basement deal on this company. Of course no one knew back then that when the company split in order to get on a bigger board that a bunch of manipulative mms would do everything they could to kill this stock rather than loose money covering their naked shorts. The company did the unthinkable, and accidentally made money. oooopps!!! Simple rule: COMPANIES THAT MAKE MONEY ARE WORTH MONEY. If you are in OVIS, you picked a great time to be here. Statistics show that only one out of three companies survive two years past startup. Of those who make it, the average time to profitability is 3 - 5 years. OVIS has finally made it. The preponderance of evidence that this stock will fly is uncommon and fantastic. Investors can wait years for situations like these to happen. Should you mortgage your home? no. Should you go buy a Mercedes? no. Should you count your chickens before they hatch? no. Should you hold this stock into the thirties? Darn right."