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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (602401)	3/4/2011 7:18:33 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576893

Ted, > he's more concerned about the well being of this country than making his fortune bigger..... His fortune is already huge. Now he wants to make sure no one else can get rich like he did. An extreme hypocrite. Really. How is he managing to do that? Can't wait to hear your answer. I don't know who the Koch brothers are, but that seems to be the latest talking point for liberals these days. Pretend that Gov. Walker was installed by right-wing financiers rather than the voters of Wisconsin. Its takes money to win a governor's race and Walker rode into the governor's office on the Kochs' money. Its funny how you never know any of the slimy wingers out that are hellbent on destroying this democracy. Your ignorance is hurting the nation. One of these days, people are going to learn what "collective bargaining" actually means in the 21st century. It has NOTHING to do with the birth of unions during the 20th century industrialization period. Really? That's a statement from someone who is clueless. And FYI the Industrial Revolution took place in the 19th century; not the 20th century. Ugh!

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (602401)	3/5/2011 5:33:42 PM
From: i-node	3 Recommendations Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 1576893

>> I don't know who the Koch brothers are, but that seems to be the latest talking point for liberals these days. Pretend that Gov. Walker was installed by right-wing financiers rather than the voters of Wisconsin. I really love to watch how the liberals pick an "evil" target and go after it. It spreads like wildfire. And they rattle it off, like tejek here, incessantly as if the mere mention of the name conveys the evil intent. Chris Matthews and "Cheenee" is my favorite example. When he says it, liberals everywhere get a collective thrill up their legs. One liberal site I visit is particularly a joy to watch. I go there and post how much like Sarah Palin and a 500 reply thread ensues on what a piece of dirt she is. I post how much I enjoyed watching Bristol on "Dancing with the Stars" and they JUST GO NUTS. I thoroughly enjoy watching it. They are just exhausted with trying to defend the actions of an incompetent they elected, so any target they can find is fair game.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (602401)	3/6/2011 12:56:10 PM
From: Alighieri	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576893

I don't know who the Koch brothers are, but that seems to be the latest talking point for liberals these days. Pretend that Gov. Walker was installed by right-wing financiers rather than the voters of Wisconsin. You mean these voters? Go to the bottom of the page for results. wpri.org Al ============================================================ Local Poll: Wisconsin Wants Compromise First Posted: 03/ 6/11 12:13 AM Updated: 03/ 6/11 12:13 AM The recent vow by Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) that he "can't compromise" with Democratic legislators on union rights runs sharply counter to preferences of Wisconsinites, according to a new survey of the state sponsored by a conservative think tank. The poll, conducted last week and sponsored by the Wisconsin Policy Research Institute (WPRI), finds nearly two-thirds of the state's adults (65 percent) prefer that Walker "negotiate with Democrats and public employee's unions in order to find a compromise solution" to the "current conflict over public employee benefits and collective bargaining rights." A third (33 percent) prefer the alternative, that Walker "stand strong for the plan he has proposed no matter how long the protests go on." WPRI bills itself as "Wisconsin's Free Market Think Tank" and their web site features articles critical of the union protests and supportive of Walker's agenda. But Kenneth Goldstein, the University of Wisconsin-Madison political science professor who directed the survey, tells The Huffington Post that he "had control over every aspect of the survey methodology" and applied the "best practices" of the field. The survey used live interviewers and reached respondents over both their landline and mobile telephones, and WPRI has released full results and cross-tabulations for every question asked (here and here). The results of the WPRI survey on common measures are also in line with other recent public polls of the state. Like other surveys, for example, WPRI found that Walker has a net negative job rating, with 43 percent expressing approval and 53 disapproval. That result falls within the margin of sampling error four other surveys conducted in recent weeks, including an automated survey by the Democratic-affiliated firm Public Policy Poling and two surveys sponsored by the AFL-CIO. Also, like the AFL-CIO surveys released a week ago, the WPRI study found more positive views of Walker's opponents in the ongoing controversy, the legislative Democrats (50 percent favorable, 42 percent unfavorable) and the public employee unions (59 percent favorable, 34 percent unfavorable). The survey included a question testing reactions to the following description of Walker's plan: As you may know, Governor Scott Walker recently announced a plan that would require public employees to contribute to their own pensions and pay greater amounts for their health insurance, which would, in effect, be a pay reduction. The plan would permit most public employees to negotiate only their wages, and future wage increases above the rate of inflation would have to be approved by a voter referendum. Contracts would be limited to one year. In addition, Walker's plan also changes rules to require public employee unions to take annual votes to maintain certification as a union, stops state or local government from collecting union dues, and allows individual members to decide if they wish to pay union dues. Unions for law enforcement and firefighters would be exempt from the changes. More Wisconsin adults disapprove (51 percent) than approve (46 percent) of the plan as described, and strong strong opposition (42 percent) is 10 points greater than strong support (32 percent). Story continues below Advertisement Tabulations of these results by party identification show strong polarization throughout the survey, but also show that political independents have largely broken against Walker. The give Walker net negative ratings, oppose his budget plan and, by a greater than two-to-one margin (69 percent to 30 percent), urge him to compromise rather than stand strong. However, these same results also demonstrate the challenges of achieving any such a compromise. Walker's base of Republicans overwhelmingly approves of both his performance as governor (90 percent) and his budget plan (87 percent, 73 percent strongly), and 77 percent want him to stand strong rather than compromise. The WPRI survey also included a "split form" experiment that tested two versions of a favor-or-oppose question about scaling back the collective bargaining rights of public unions. A random half of the sample heard a question that echoed the position articulated by the unions and their Democratic allies: Stripping most public employees of their right to collectively bargain over benefits and working conditions as part of a ploy to eliminate public employee unions altogether. Just 32 percent favor and 58 percent oppose this aspect of Walker's plan as described, and exactly half (50 percent) oppose it strongly. The other half of the sample heard the proposal described differently, echoing the position of Walker and the Republicans: Limiting most public employees' ability to negotiate over non-wage issues in order to prevent local union affiliates from obstructing the budgeting process for local governments. The second version -- which changes a public employee's "right" to an "ability" and changes "stripping" to "limiting" -- still draws more opposition (50 percent) than support (47 percent). The survey does include cautionary results on the ongoing controversy for the Democrats. By a narrow margin (47 percent to 51 percent), Wisconsinites disapprove "of Senate Democrats' decision to leave the state in order to prevent the passage of the budget repair bill that would reduce public employee benefits and change collective bargaining rights."