To: MythMan who wrote (413904 ) 3/9/2011 9:32:17 AM From: Jeff Jordan Respond to of 436258 LOL, .........don't point any plastic fingers at me<g> 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34 .....the wrong path leads where?youtube.com In The Republic, Plato has Socrates compare the relationship between the world of the senses and the world of Ideas with that between the shadows of persons and objects as they would be cast by firelight on the wall of a cave, and the same real persons and objects as they would appear in the direct light of day. People see objects-chairs, tables, trees-of the world as real, whereas they are only reflections of the true realities-the Ideas of the perfect chair, table, or tree. So human virtues are reflections of ideal virtues, of which the highest is the Idea of the Good. Human beings can, and should, strive to know the ultimate Ideas, especially the Idea of the Good. At about age seventy, Socrates was brought to trial on charges of disrespect to the gods and corrupting the young men of Athens. Thereafter, it was Plato who carried on his work. Politically, Athenian democracy did much to disillusion Plato: He had seen its courts condemn his master. On his travels he had formed a high opinion of the tyrants ruling the Greek cities of Sicily and Italy. So when Plato came to sketch the ideal state in The Republic, his system resembled that of the Spartans. He recommended that power be entrusted to the Guardians, a small intellectual elite, specially bred and trained to understand Ideas, governing under the wisest man of all, the Philosopher-King. The masses would simply do their jobs as workers or soldiers and obey their superiors. Democracy, he concluded, by relying on amateurs, was condemned to failure through the fatal flaws in the character of those who would govern. Socrates and others were shown discussing problems of life and the human spirit. Much influenced by the Pythagoreans, Plato retained a deep reverence for mathematics, but he found cosmic reality in Ideas rather than in numbersyoutube.com