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To: Solon who wrote (14156)	3/11/2011 12:11:22 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

Ah, you're tolerant to Christians who don't believe in Christianity .... like the guy who goes to church cause his wife makes him.

To: Solon who wrote (14156)	3/11/2011 12:50:50 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 69300

The gay thing really gets under your skin doesn't it? But that figures since you chose a famous pedarast as your namesake: ... Sexual reform In reforming the morals of the Athenian polis, Solon, according to some authors, did not overlook the sexual aspects of social life. This side of Solon's reforms allegedly took two separate forms: the facilitation of heterosexual expression and the regulation of homosexual expression. According to a surviving fragment from a work ("Brothers") by the comic playwright Philemon,[91] Solon, in order to "democratize" the availability of sexual pleasure and to place it within the reach of even those of modest means, established publicly funded brothels at Athens.[92] While the veracity of this account is open to doubt, it is considered significant that in Classical Athens, three hundred or so years after the death of Solon, there existed a discourse that associated the availability of heterosexual pleasure with democratic values.[93] Solon, perhaps more credibly, is also credited with being the systematizer of the pederastic educational tradition in Athens, adapting the ancient custom the new environment of the Athenian polis.[94] According to the orator Aeschines, he drew up a set of laws that were intended to promote and safeguard the institution of pederasty and control abuses against freeborn boys. Specifically, he excluded slaves from the wrestling halls, and from pederastic relationships with the sons of citizens.[95] Besides the legislative aspect of his involvement with pederasty, there was also a personal component. According to the later histories of Plutarch and Aelian, Solon took the future tyrant Peisistratus as eromenos. The boy happened to be one of his relatives (their mothers were cousins). Later, Solon appointed him as a commander in the conquest of Salamis in the 590s BC.[96][97] Aristotle, however, claims that the difference in age between the two (31 years) would have been too great, making the relationship "impossible".[98] His interest in the ideals of pederasty[99] is also reflected in his poetry. Among his lighter works is a pederastic poem praising the love of boys in one's youth ". . . when in the delightful flower of youth one learns to love a boy, yearning for thighs and sweet mouth".[100] .... bookrags.com ... He is also credited with being the founder of the pederastic educational tradition in Athens. He composed poetry praising the love of boys and instituted legislation to control abuses against freeborn boys. .... omnipelagos.com