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Pastimes : Ask God -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ronald P. Margraf Sr. who wrote (9464)	11/14/1997 1:59:00 AM
From: Jane Hafker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Ron, how nice you're back. I enjoyed the time we all had clarifying our concept of the most important thing in most of our lives, if not verbalized every moment, certainly it is always there. I feel I see something now I never saw before as a result, and personally the Father, Son and Holy Spirit make even more crystal clear sense to me than ever before. Well, my question, once posted, seemed very strange to me even. I don't believe such things are for a public group discussion. There are a lot of subjects that just don't lend themselves to that type of thing and certainly this is one. I don't think the Lord would have me talk about it. But I did blame God, I think, for how the whole thing went down, and I just felt like I didn't understand how He could have let it happen like it did. Very hard to explain, and I wish I'd never brought it up. But I will share an amazing, amazing experience which I think is interesting enough to share. I personally had a vision which I believe the Lord specifically allowed me to see to set my mind at ease. I just saw the guys under trees. All talking, and dressed just like normal, but soldiers, and that's all. Just a bunch of guys, sitting with their backs against trees, talking. But I knew what I'd seen, and I knew what it meant, and I knew that God had let me see it. Never mentioned it to anyone because even my best friends would have said, "so, what did that mean?" But I knew exactly what it meant to me. That was l981 or early 82. Then in l985 People magazine came out with "Where are they now" and showed some guys then and now. One was a medic, and there was a picture of this really really impressive looking young guy some cameraman had caught as he was calling for help for some guy on the ground, and next to it was the picture of him as he was at that time, 1985, and he was an overweight biker-looking guy with a beard and he had been on permanent disability for years. It showed that he was up in Prescott, Az, and I read his story. Well, it told about him being a medic and all, and going down hill afterwards, and then it quoted him saying" And one day I was real down and real depressed and I was thinking about all my buddies and all the guys that didn't make it and [implied that he was blaming God to as I remember] ...then I saw them. They were all sitting under trees and they were all happy and I knew everything was o.k." Well, Ron, upon reading this as you can imagine I almost got knocked over. I tried so hard to find the guy to tell him I had seen the same thing and that if he ever thought it was his imagination, that it wasn't, that I had seen the guys under the trees too. But I couldn't ever make contact with him. Then, in l992 I was watching Ken Burns thing on the Civil War. I was so tired, I felt like I could not stay awake another second, but it was one of those marathons, and I just kept watching and watching and then it came to Gen. Stonewall Jackson, who was a big Christian, indeed. It seems that this is how Jackson died. He had bad gangrene, and the doctor wanted to give him morphine. He refused, saying how long did he have to live, and the doctor said by the afternoon he would be gone. "Then, I will meet my maker as I am." He and his wife spent the next few hours praying. It is recorded that about 6:00 he had been drifting in and out of and seemed to be talking and encouraging his troops as he was dying, and the last thing recorded he said was something about like "Men, we'll cross the river here and rest under those trees." So, I believe God got the message to me not to worry about these things. That's why I asked you if you had ever blamed God.