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To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (14355)	3/16/2011 3:08:55 AM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 69300

"Saying "evil is a psychological construct, as real as dragons" is a robust intellectual response. Imo." IMO, simple denial in the face of universal Human experience is neither robust or intellectual. "It is unsatisfying to those who want or need for the universe and our place in it to be part of some bigger plan." It makes more sense to say that denial of the universal Human observation that actual Evil exists ONLY satisfies those who want or need Good and Evil not to exist because if they do, then they are morally culpable. If atheists could actually live as if atheism were true then you might have a stronger case but as it is they can't help but to continually fall back to acting as if Evil is real. The objection that Russell raised is case in point. "No one can believe in a good God if they've sat at the bedside of a dying child." Pure appeal to emotion and the common Human experience from a man who denies the validity and reality of both. Hmmmm... "if you believe the premise (embedded in the diatribe below) that the universe requires "redemption", you've begged the question." Diatribe? Really? Circular? The question was this: "Given naturalism, what is evil and how does the atheist make sense of it?" The universal premise that Evil is real combined with the cry of the Human heart for Justice is the fact that needs explaining. "A universe that requires redemption is definitively beset by evil." Ah, don't you have that backward? "Imo, saying that bad things happen outside of a plan by either a god or a devil requires tremendous moral courage." Courage? I note the slide from objective "Evil" to relatively "bad things". The important question is: can there be any real Evil if God does not exist? I say no: but since Evil does exist and is universally acknowledged, THAT, is very strong evidence that so does God.