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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (101844)3/23/2011 4:31:07 PM
From: chartseer  Respond to of 224718
 
Just wait until after may and the economy is distroyed will his poll numbers still be as high?

Are you shorting JPM stock too?

citizen chartseer



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (101844)3/23/2011 4:41:34 PM
From: chartseer  Respond to of 224718
 
So far only Herman Cain and the Grinch are running.
CAIN IS ABLE!
CAN AMERICA AFFORND 4 MORE YEARS OF BRILLIANT BARRY BRIGHT!

news.yahoo.com

citizen chartseer



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (101844)3/23/2011 4:47:52 PM
From: chartseer  Respond to of 224718
 
CAIN IS ABLE! Not only is Cain able but he isn't a politician.

citizen chartseer



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (101844)3/24/2011 8:09:01 AM
From: lorne3 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 224718
 
ken...This democrat thingie often appears on Fox news..IMO he appears there to show much of the country just how dispicable and stupid the majority of liberal/democrats really are...sort of like why you are allowed to post here on this thread..it is a lesson on how not to be and what not to be.

Anthony Weiner: Waiver might work for New York
'Maybe New York City can come up with a better plan' on health care, said Anthony Weiner
CloseBy KATE NOCERA | 3/23/11
politico.com

Rep. Anthony Weiner said Wednesday he was looking into how a health law waiver might work for New York City.

Weiner, who is likely to run for mayor of New York, said that because of the city’s special health care infrastructure, his office was looking into alternatives that might make more sense. Weiner is one of the health care law’s biggest supporters; during the debate leading up to reform, he was one of the last holdouts in Congress for the public option.

“The president said, ‘If you have better ideas that can accomplish the same thing, go for it,’” said Weiner. “I’m in the process now of trying to see if we can take [President Barack Obama] up on it in the city of New York, … and I’m taking a look at all of the money we spend in Medicaid and Medicare and maybe New York City can come up with a better plan.”

New York is one of two states that pass on Medicaid expenses to cities and localities, so “the city winds up having an enormous Medicaid expense,” Weiner said.

The congressman was trying to debunk Republican “myths” about the health care law during a speech at the Center for American Progress. He used the waivers as way to describe how flexible the law actually is and how “this notion that the government is shoving the bill down people’s throats” is not true.

“The administration needs to make this argument more forcefully,” he said. “A lot of people who got waivers were … people who are our friends.”

The New York Democrat said that he does not have the power to get the city to apply for a waiver but that he is “personally looking at whether he can make the numbers work.”

“We in New York already have hospitals, we already employ doctors and we employ nurses. We have a lot of uninsured people. … [Setting up] the exchanges is the one piece of the puzzle that would be difficult for us to do,” he said. “I’m just looking internally to whether the city can save money and have more control over its own destiny.

Weiner is slated to hold at least five events on the anniversary of the Affordable Care Act and has been one of the most outspoken Democratic supporters of the law.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (101844)3/24/2011 8:12:51 AM
From: lorne3 Recommendations  Respond to of 224718
 
ken..gees, cnn reporting not so good stuff about hussein obama health care. Are they telling the truth ken?

Health care's hidden costs: $363 billion

Consumers are paying an additional $1,355 a year on hidden out-of-pocket health care expenses. These include home health aides not covered by insurance, alternative medicines, ambulance services and nutritional products.
By Parija Kavilanz, senior writer
March 23, 2011
money.cnn.com

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- A year after the passing of health reform, a new industry report revealed that consumers may be paying billions of dollars more in out-of-pocket health care expenses than was previously thought.

These "hidden" costs of health care -- like taking time off to care for elderly parents -- add up to $363 billion, according to a report from the Deloitte Center for Health Solutions, a research group.

153Email Print That amounts to $1,355 per consumer, on top of the $8,000 the government says people spend on doctor fees and hospital care.

"We're surprised that this number came in so high. It's significant," said Paul Keckley, executive director with the group.

The out-of-pocket costs that the government tallies usually include only insurance-related costs like premiums, deductibles, and co-payments.

Keckley said the study is the first to estimate how much consumers dish out on health care related goods and services not covered by private or government insurance.

These include: ambulance services, alternative medicines, nutritional products and vitamins, weight-loss centers and supervisory care of elderly family members.

"These costs can add up to billions of dollars, even eclipsing housing as a household expense," said Keckley.

Big health care changes in 2012
The Deloitte study found that half the hidden costs are for supervisory care, or the unpaid care given by family and friends.

"We compared on an hourly basis the average number of hours per month taken off work to look after a family member or friend, and lost wages in doing this," said Keckley.

The report estimates the value of unpaid care is $12.60 per hour, or $199 billion a year.

"It has been one year since the passage of health care reform," said Keckley. "We wanted to understand the financial context behind decisions that consumers are making about how they spend their money on health care."

As health reform rolls out over the next few years, Keckley expects that out-of-pocket health care costs to consumers will increase quickly. Health care costs continue to rise faster than household incomes and insurers are passing along more costs to their customers.

The average household income fell 1.9% last year while health care costs rose 6%, he said.

"This is a perfect storm in which consumers' hidden costs will only increase exponentially in the near future."

The Deloitte study looked at the most recently available health care expenditure data from the government. The firm, with Harris Interactive, also polled 1,008 U.S. adults,18 and older, between Sept. 29 to Oct. 4, 2010.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (101844)3/24/2011 8:19:15 AM
From: lorne3 Recommendations  Respond to of 224718
 
ken...do you approve of this crap being pushed onto America's kids by your kind?

Democrats advance 'lesbians-as-role models' plan
'Costly state mandate targets children for sexual brainwashing'
March 23, 2011
By Bob Unruh
© 2011 WorldNetDaily
wnd.com

A band of six Democrats in the California state Senate voted today to advance a bill that has been described as "the worst school sexual indoctrination ever" and would require that school children be taught to admire "lesbian, gay, bisexual and transsexual" role models.

S.B. 48 is sponsored by state Sen. Mark Leno, who boasts on his website of founding a business with his "life partner, Douglas Jackson," who later died of AIDS complications.

Randy Thomasson of the family-promoting SaveCalifornia.com said parents "don't want and children don't need 'LGBTIQ' role models in school."

"S.B. 48 micromanages public schools by forcing teachers, administrators, local school boards, textbooks, and instructional materials to promote a gaggle of sexual lifestyles that disturb parents and confuse kids," Thomasson said. "This costly state mandate targets children for sexual brainwashing, behind the backs of parents, teaching boys and girls to admire those who engage in homosexual, bisexual or transsexual behavior."

He explained that if S.B. 48 becomes law, children as young as 6 years old will be subjected to mandatory lessons about same-sex "marriage," bisexuality and individuals who choose to undergo sex-change operations.

"Children will be taught to support the political activism of 'Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Intersex and Questioning' (LGBTIQ) political groups, as the bill requires 'particular emphasis on portraying the role of these groups in contemporary society,'" he explained in a warning to parents about the dangers their children face in public schools.

"Teachers will be made to positively portray homosexuality, same-sex 'marriages,' bisexuality, and transsexuality (sex-changes operations), because to be silent can bring the charge of 'reflecting adversely,'" he said.

And Thomasson warned school boards will be required to select textbooks and other instructional materials that positively portray sex-change operations, same-sex 'marriages' and more.

In a letter to Rep. Alan Lowenthall, chairman of the Senate Education Committee where the vote – six Democrats in favor and three Republicans opposed – was recorded, Thomasson's organization had opposed the plan.

"On behalf of the millions of parents we serve and the children they love, please oppose S.B. 48, which is the most radical sexual indoctrination ever of children in California public schools, which are supposed to be about academics," the letter said.

"S.B. 48 is intolerant. It would force – much more than recommend – all local school boards, public school teachers, and history textbooks to teach children as young as kindergarten to admire 'lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender Americans' as their personal role models," he wrote.

"Fathers and mothers who love their children and want moral values for their children cannot trust Democrat legislators, homosexuals or teacher unions, all of which conspired to push forward this perverse bill," he told WND.

Thomasson's SaveCalifornia.com, which was a key player in the battle in the state in 2007 and 2008 over a variety of laws that now forbid any "adverse" portrayal of alternative sexual choices in school, class, curriculum and by teachers, now also promotes the RescueYourChild.com website, which advocates for parents to take their children out of government schools.

Equality California, an organization that advocates for homosexuality, said others sponsoring the plan include Sen. Christine Kehoe, D-San Diego; and Assembly members Tom Ammiano, D-San Francisco; Toni Atkins, D-San Diego; Rich Gordon, D-San Mateo; and Ricardo Lara, D-East Los Angeles.

On his state website, Leno expressed his worry: "Most textbooks don't include any historical information about the LGBT movement, which has great significance to both California and U.S. history."

"Our collective silence on this issue perpetuates negative stereotypes of LGBT people and leads to increased bullying of young people. We can't simultaneously tell youth that it's OK to be yourself and live an honest, open life when we aren't even teaching students about historical LGBT figures or the LGBT equal rights movement," he said.

SaveCalifornia.com, however, says such a teaching plan "is radical, in-your-face sexual indoctrination that parents genuinely don't want and children certainly don't need."

The California Legislative Counsel's commentary on the bill affirms it would "require instruction in social sciences to also include a study of the role and contributions of Native Americans, African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Pacific Islanders, European Americans, lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender Americans … to the development of California and the United States."

It also would require "alternative and charter schools" to "take notice of the provisions of this bill."

The law itself requires that schools teach "particular emphasis on portraying the role of these groups in contemporary society."

Thomasson told WND that this is the next progression following many earlier laws adopted in California that serve the dual purpose of cracking down on traditional families and promoting the "alternatives."

"The California public schools are no longer safe places for boys and girls morally," he told WND. "This new bill, S.B. 48, reflects the desire of the Democrat state legislators to recruit boys and girls to support the homosexual-bisexual-transsexual agenda both personally and publicly."

It was just two years ago when the organization launched the Rescue Your Child effort to encourage parents to withdraw their children from public schools because of such indoctrination.

That followed work by the legislature and then-Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to establish Senate Bill 777 and Assembly Bill 394 as law. The measures institutionalized the promotion of homosexuality, bisexuality, transgenderism and other alternative lifestyle choices by banning any "adverse" references in schools.

At the time, officials said SB 777 "functionally requires public school instructional materials and school-sponsored activities to positively portray cross-dressing, sex-change operations, homosexual 'marriages,' and all aspects of homosexuality and bisexuality, including so-called 'gay history.'"

The second bill, AB 394, "requires public schools to distribute controversial material to teachers, students, and parents which promotes transexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality, all under the guise of 'anti-harassment' training."

Those laws ban in any school texts, events, class or activities any discriminatory bias against those who have chosen alternative sexual lifestyles, according to Meredith Turney, legislative liaison for Capitol Resource Institute.

But there are no similar protections for students with traditional or conservative lifestyles and beliefs. Offenders will face the wrath of the state Department of Education, up to and including lawsuits.

California also has mandated that public schools honor Harvey Milk – a homosexual activist and reported sexual predator, as well as an advocate for Jim Jones, leader of the massacred hundreds in Jonestown, Guyana.

SaveCalifornia.com led a statewide battle against "Harvey Milk Day" before California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed the S.B. 572.

The bill designates May 22 – Milk's birthday – a date of "special significance" and encourages all California public schools to "conduct suitable commemorative exercises … remembering the life of Harvey Milk and recognizing his accomplishments as well as the contributions he made to this state."



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (101844)3/24/2011 9:15:20 AM
From: TideGlider4 Recommendations  Respond to of 224718
 
Where is the glorious unemployment report Kenneth? Is it buried somewhere with the housing and durable goods reports?

Things look stagnant to worsening from here. I sure hope it can be turned around but I just don't see any hope with Obama, although his golf game may be improving.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (101844)3/24/2011 9:39:29 AM
From: locogringo3 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224718
 
‘Worst report’ on housing renews fears of recession

Within the space of a week, the nation has witnessed worst performances on record of new home sales, home prices and building — evidence that the housing market has sunk into a double-dip recession that poses a significant drag on the overall economy. Never before has the U.S. economy staged a recovery while the housing market was in such a deep slump, although analysts are expecting it to defy the historical odds and maintain growth this year.

washingtontimes.com



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (101844)3/24/2011 9:48:51 AM
From: locogringo4 Recommendations  Respond to of 224718
 
CNN POLL: OBAMACARE JUST AS UNPOPULAR AS IT WAS A YEAR AGO

Remember when all those ObamaCare supporters kept telling us (and themselves) that ”reform” would become more and more popular once the voters discovered all the cool stuff buried in its 2,700 pages?

Oops! According to that hive of wingnuts and Tea Partiers at CNN, it’s just as unpopular now as it was a year ago, when the President and his congressional accomplices shoved it up our down our throats:

According to a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Wednesday, on the one year anniversary of the signing of the law, a majority continue to oppose the measure.

How big a majority? Six in ten:

Thirty-seven percent of Americans support the measure, with 59 percent opposed.

How does this compare to a year ago?

That’s basically unchanged from last March, when 39 percent supported the law and 59 percent opposed the measure.

CNN does its best to smear lipstick on this poll, but no amount of journalistic grease paint will obscure the fact that most Americans still think this health “reform” law is an ugly, stinking pig. And they are right.

healthcarebs.com



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (101844)3/24/2011 11:02:42 AM
From: JakeStraw4 Recommendations  Respond to of 224718
 
On the campaign trail in late 2007, Obama stated that the president lacks the constitutional power "to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."

So what happened with Libya? Oh I Obama is doing what he does best which is lying to the us taxpayers.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (101844)3/24/2011 11:15:28 AM
From: JakeStraw3 Recommendations  Respond to of 224718