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To: tejek who wrote (606147)	4/1/2011 4:38:50 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 1579932

by a mythical god It seems every liberal on this thread is an atheist. There's definitely a strong link between atheism and liberalism. If you think you're a god or should be, its hard to believe in another one?

To: tejek who wrote (606147)	4/1/2011 5:11:17 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1579932

If the other side is lying (and your idea that almost everything conservatives say is a lie is nuts), then you can point out their lies. To do so you have to show that they are wrong, and then show that they do, or at least should, know the reality (otherwise its just a mistake not a lie). But you like the cheap way out, you can't show a mistake much less a lie, but you don't try to, you just shout "liar" while plugging your ears to any fact that you find uncomfortable, or likely to help arguments contrary to your position. And again beyond all that, if the organization in question really is dishonest, that doesn't change the point that the rich (specifically the top 1 percent, but the same applies to the top 5 percent, and to a lesser extent to the top .1, or .01 percent) pay a disproportionately high portion of the federal tax burden. All your points about conservatives being liars, support for free markets being the cause of the recession and slow growth since it ended, etc. are of course false, but more than that they are irrelevant. If they all where true, and could be proven to be true, they wouldn't change the fact that the data you don't like is true. That the top 1 percent don't (as your claimed in one post on this thread) make anywhere close to eighty percent of the total income in this country (closer to 1/4th of that), and that they do pay a noticeably larger share of federal taxes (whether your considering just income taxes or all federal taxes) than those who make less money (the hyper rich pay a lower percentage of their income in taxes than the mere very rich, but they pay more than the average middle class person, or the average person overall). But instead of acknowledging that, or trying to argue against it, or just shutting up about the issue, you just keep repeating the same irrelevant, unsupported, and false points as if it was meaningful to do so.