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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: grusum who wrote (102600)4/11/2011 11:48:52 AM
From: lorne3 Recommendations  Respond to of 224757
 
grusum9 .. So whats to consider..stop islam law...simple , just stop them in America and the rest of the free world.

Texas may ban courts from considering foreign laws
By ANNA M. TINSLEY
FORT WORTH STAR-TELEGRAM
April 9, 2011
chron.com

AUSTIN — Texas lawmakers are considering whether to ban state courts from considering foreign religious or cultural laws, such as the Islamic law of Shariah.

The goal "is to require a Texas court to uphold and apply only the laws ordained by the constitutions of (Texas and the United States), prohibiting any other interpretation," said Rep. Leo Berman, R-Tyler, a former Arlington mayor pro tem. "This is now happening all over Europe ... and in Dearborn, Mich. ... and it could spread throughout the United States.

"We all know what Shariah law does to women - women must wear burqas, women are subject to humiliation and into controlled marriages under Shariah law," he said. "We want to prevent it from ever happening in Texas."

A bill by Berman to prevent foreign laws from being recognized in Texas courts, as well as a twin proposal by Rep. Randy Weber, R-Pearland, went before the House Committee on Judiciary and Civil Jurisprudence last week. Both bills were left pending.

Texas is among several states - including Alaska, Oklahoma, Louisiana and Tennessee - considering bans on the recognition of foreign laws, according to the Institute for U.S. Law.

Questioning necessity
The bill does not specifically name Shariah, but Berman and others have cited it as a concern. They note increasing instances of other states recognizing foreign laws to, for example, give a father custody of a child or deny a restraining order for a wife, saying a husband acted under Shariah.

Shariah is a set of core principles that most Muslims recognize, as well as a series of rulings from religious scholars. It covers many areas of life, and different sects follow different versions.

Several civil-rights and interfaith groups have blasted the legislative efforts in Texas and other states as unconstitutional and unfair to Muslims.

"It's not just happening in Dearborn," Pat Carlson, a Fort Worth woman and president of the conservative Texas Eagle Forum, told the committee. "This is something happening in other states."

When asked by a committee member whether she thinks Shariah is invading the country, Carlson said, "It has got tentacles in our country."

Officials with the American Civil Liberties Union and Texas Freedom Network were among those opposing the bill, although they didn't testify.

Some committee members questioned whether the bill is needed.

"Even if what you are saying is true, there are extremists on every end of the political spectrum," said Rep. Joaquin Castro, D-San Antonio, a committee member. "So what makes you think they're going to take over the country?"

Business concerns
Lee Parsley, president of the Austin-based Texas Civil Justice League, said a broad bill preventing foreign laws could affect companies doing business in Texas that might agree, for instance, to operate under Mexican law to curb liabilities.

"I have concerns for Texas businesses," said Parsley, of the lawsuit reform coalition group. "It creates uncertainty for contracts."

But Dorrie O'Brien, a Grand Prairie woman who worked to add a plank to the Republican Party of Texas' platform in 2010 asking state lawmakers not to let Shariah be recognized in Texas, said lawmakers need to take a stand.

"Shariah law is a complete way of life," she said. "We cannot have a substitute law ... running alongside our Constitution.

"There can only be one set of law recognized in the United States. Shariah law goes against everything that we believe in."

Weber said Shariah isn't the only foreign law that he and others are concerned about.

"We are concerned about any other foreign law," he said. "This is a unique opportunity ... to do something really historic.

"It doesn't mean that we are paranoid. It just means we protect our own."



To: grusum who wrote (102600)4/11/2011 3:24:35 PM
From: lorne4 Recommendations  Respond to of 224757
 
1st Quran, now this?
Controversial pastor reveals plans if Muhammad found 'guilty' next
April 10, 2011
By Drew Zahn
© 2011 WorldNetDaily
wnd.com

The Florida pastor whose public torching of the Quran sparked violent Muslim protests in the Mideast told WND Jerusalem Bureau Chief Aaron Klein that an effigy of Islam's Prophet Muhammad may be next.

Pastor Terry Jones of the Dove World Outreach Center of Gainesville, Fla., was speaking with Klein on the latter's "Aaron Klein Investigative Radio" on WABC 770 AM in New York City when the host asked if there was any truth to the rumor that Jones' church would put Muhammad "on trial," like it did with the Quran.

"There is that possibility," Jones said, before qualifying, "it is definitely not a possibility in the near future."

Nonetheless, he continued: "As far as judging Muhammad, it would take place in the same way. We would try to obtain experts on both sides of the bench, and if Muhammad was found innocent … then we would issue a public apology to Islam, to the Quran, to the followers of Muhammad for our actions at insulting [them]. If he was found guilty, then we would do in the same manner as the Quran burning. We would offer probably four or five different forms of punishment, and then the form of punishment that the people voted upon, that would be the punishment that would be executed."

Klein asked what kind of "punishment" Jones had in mind.

"Probably they would be forms similar to International Judge the Quran Day," Jones said. "On that day we had four forms of punishment – they were burning, grounding, shredding and facing of a firing squad. We would probably pick some of those kinds of forms, and if Muhammad was found guilty … we would put together some type of picture or some type of dummy figure to represent him, and then the execution would be done on that particular object we created."

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Audio of the interview can be heard below:

Following Jones' recent, public burning of the Quran, violent protests erupted in several predominantly Muslim countries, including in Afghanistan, where mobs murdered seven United Nations workers and almost two dozen people were reported dead.

Klein asked Jones if he felt responsible, at least in part, for the violence in Afghanistan.

"We absolutely do not feel responsible. We definitely feel that the people who are responsible [in Afghanistan] need to be held accountable," Jones said. "These kinds of things can only happen because in countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan, in Muslim, Sharia-dominated countries, they have no respect for life. They have no respect for human rights, civil rights, they have no freedom of speech, freedom of religion."

Klein persisted: "You had to know that burning the Quran would trigger this kind of response."

"Of course we were aware that that could possibly happen," Jones said. "The radical element of Islam, they work through fear and intimidation.

"It's definitely tragic that those 20 people, or possibly even more, have been killed, but we need to not forget that Islam has been killing people for hundreds and hundreds of years," Jones continued, "and if we can really use this to bring forth real action [from Western countries or the United Nations] and not just talk, then maybe we will in the long run save hundreds of lives."

Jones is now planning demonstrations in Dearborn, Mich., home to the largest Muslim population in the U.S., a move Klein warned could be dangerous to Jones.

"We have no intention on backing down," the pastor insisted. "We feel that this message concerning the radical element of Islam is very, very important.

Jones explained, however, that he and his church respect the constitutional rights of Muslims in the U.S. and only wish to target the religion's more radical elements.

"We are going to Dearborn, Michigan, not to demonstrate against Muslims, not to demonstrate against the Quran, against their freedoms, against the mosque there," Jones stated. "We are going to Dearborn, Michigan, to demonstrate against Shariah and jihad."



To: grusum who wrote (102600)4/11/2011 6:34:13 PM
From: MJ  Respond to of 224757
 
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To: grusum who wrote (102600)4/11/2011 6:41:11 PM
From: chartseer  Respond to of 224757
 
No Cain? Isn't Cain able?

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