To: Pogeu Mahone who wrote (15050 ) 4/11/2011 1:04:15 PM From: Lane3 1 Recommendation Respond to of 39295 Let me see who I will listen to? Science or religion? That's not the choice before you. You may frame it that way in your mind but what you are doing is simply choosing the scientific/religious authority that most resonates with you and dismissing the other as blasphemy/not science. I always find it interesting when folks invoke authorities, particularly when they have framed the issue from the side of science vs religion given that the epitome of invoking an authority is religion, you know, like God said so therefore it is so. Science, OTOH, prefers reasoning. With reasoning one can see that the question for which you invoked it is not the one on the table. That anyone would think it was represents either misunderstanding or chicanery--a straw man. The other thing about invoking an authority is that it relieves one of the burden of having to produce an actual argument. That is a particularly popular strategy when one doesn't have a good argument. The question raised by Taubes was not whether calories in equals calories out but how to regulate calories in . The idea is that when you eat as he suggests, you naturally eat less. That's not inherently inconsistent with calories in/calories out, so your response is beside the point. Now, if you have any words of wisdom from your authority that analyze and counter Taubes's notion re satiety, please present them. There are lots of issues surrounding excess calories in, aka overfeeding, including your personal favorite to the exclusion of all others, addiction. Satiety is one of them, the one that's on the table. If you're going to invoke an authority rather than present an argument, pick an authority who is speaking on topic.