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To: KLP who wrote (421672)	4/13/2011 2:14:53 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	7 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793838

What all Republicans need to do is what Mark Levin does whenever he's accused of wanting to destroy Medicare or any other social program is to slam back immediately: "YOU are destroying Medicare! WE are trying to SAVE Medicare! YOU want to keep up an unsustainable approach until we go bankrupt and the whole system collapses! That is your compassion! destroying the dollar and turning us into Greece!"

To: KLP who wrote (421672)	4/13/2011 2:35:06 PM
From: Katelew	Respond to of 793838

What you say here, I agree with you on. I was only saying the rate of poor in the country could never go to zero or anywhere close. We will have not only the Grasshoppers who have never saved money on purpose, but now we will have the Ants who HAVE saved, land in the poorhouse as well. My own expectation is that the standard of living on average will gradually fall for most of the country and over a period of ten, maybe even twenty years. Along with that, I'm expecting the numbers of people living below some arbitrary "poverty line" will increase. To avoid slipping into povery, I'm guessing there will be a trend to multi-generation households with more of the elderly living with children---something that could actuallly benefit both generations, financially speaking. The reason I say this is because Medicaid will be shrunk--one way or another it's coming, imo. I think close to half of Medicaid is going out to give the elderly free nursing home care, including medications and doctor visits, but I need to check on this. The country can't afford this, especially since the numbers of elderly are fixing to increase disproportionate to the population in general. An increase in multi-generation households, if it happens, will keep downward pressure on housing construction and housing prices....even land prices to some extent. Multi-generation households could be a major trend re the economy as it would affect purchasing of furniture, appliances, automobiles, lots of things. I'll be watching for statistical evidence of it. BTW, my keyboard is sticking and stuttering and I'm tired of correcting all the time. Just gonna let the typos stand...ugh.

To: KLP who wrote (421672)	4/13/2011 9:01:30 PM
From: MJ	7 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793838

KLP This is not a criticism of you and your wording. This is a general criticism of the concept of "Seniors". My Grandmother was a Grandmother-----the same for my Grandfather, he was never a 'Senior'. My mother was never a 'senior citizen' she was a woman first who became older and was an adult. The use of the term "Seniors" is a term that has crept into our language and society via the oh so politically correct language. What happens to the so called Seniors (a liberal coined word) affects their children and grandchildren. The money they lose due to Obama's policies will forever be lost to subsequent generations, regardless of the income level of these wise adults who have contributed monetarily and in time to America. Yes, slowly they are being disenfranchised by Mr. Obama's policies. Until the boomer generation stands up as they did against the Vietnam War Mr. Obama's policies of distribution and redistribution will continue unabated.

To: KLP who wrote (421672)	4/13/2011 11:17:18 PM
From: Joe Btfsplk	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 793838

the cost of nursing home care is $4,000-7,000 or more a year... My ex MIL, now 93(?), is getting a modest studio with some assistance and paying almost $3 grand a month out of pocket. She was married to a GSA plumber who never made more than $12 an hour, but they spent sparse and saved hard. She inherited a bit from relatives similarly situated. She gets Medicare. Her stash is near exhausted. Her grandchildren intend to step up, but their capacity is limited. What then? What constraints on the price of old age assistance exist? How do "we" determine what "we" can afford? In times past "we" seemed to do a better job relative to the national level of wealth. What changed?