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To: tejek who wrote (608061)	4/17/2011 3:34:01 PM
From: i-node	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1583499

>> Mr. Ryan's 15 minutes are nearly up. You're utterly clueless. Ryan has emerged as one of the most, if not THE most, important political figures in America.

To: tejek who wrote (608061)	4/17/2011 3:34:10 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 1583499

Weakened America a 'laughingstock,' Trump laments Apr 17 02:56 PM US/Eastern Billionaire businessman Donald Trump, who is flirting with a White House run, lamented Sunday that the United States had become a "laughingstock" too timid to wield its power assertively on the world stage. "We have such power if we knew how to use it," Trump told CNN television in an interview. He said that by failing to move more decisively in its foreign policy, "this country is a laughingstock throughout the world." Trump, 64, has not yet announced that he is running for president, but he has become more visible in recent weeks, giving more interviews and stepping us his criticism of President Barack Obama ahead of a possible 2012 challenge. The wise-cracking, straight-talking real-estate magnate, an early frontrunner among possible Republican presidential contenders, renewed his criticism of Obama as an "ineffective" leader. He offered the US role in military action against Libya's Moamer Kadhafi as proof of America's new impotence. "Look at Libya. Look at this mess," an exasperated Trump said. "We go in, we don't go in, he shouldn't be removed, we don't want to remove him, we don't want to touch him, but he should be removed. Nobody knows what they're doing on Kadhafi," he added. "I'd do one thing. Either I'd go in and take the oil or I don't go in at all," he said. "In the old days, when you have a war and you win, that nation is yours." The billionaire mogul was equally incensed over US policy toward Beijing. "If you look at what China is doing, they're stealing our jobs, they're taking our money. They're then loaning our money back. It's amazing," Trump said. "They're making all of our products," he said. "They are also manipulating the currency that makes it almost impossible for our companies to compete with China." Trump, as much a celebrity in the United State as he is a business tycoon, has a massive financial empire that spans everything from beauty contests to prime New York real estate. Ranked the 420th wealthiest person this year by Forbes magazine with $2.7 billion, the man nicknamed "The Donald" has said that if he runs he is likely to make the announcement on his own hit reality TV show "Celebrity Apprentice." He insisted that he would be a reluctant candidate, despite his recent barrage of interviews. "I wish I didn't have to do it. I would prefer not doing it. But I love this country," said Trump. "If you ask me, what are the odds, I'll let you know some time prior to June. But I will tell you, I am giving it serious, serious thought."

To: tejek who wrote (608061)	4/17/2011 8:09:18 PM
From: Brumar89	1 Recommendation Respond to of 1583499

Why Do Liberals Applaud Awful Behavior? Filed under: General — Stranahan @ 1:05 pm [Guest post by Lee Stranahan] This is how far liberalism has sunk in Wisconsin. That should say America. I’m someone who doesn’t agree with Sarah Palin on most issues – but why is this good? This isn’t debate. It’s not answering her arguments. He’s not explaining a difference in policy. It’s yelling. It’s making noise. It’s not discourse. It’s what drunk frat boys do when a song comes on that they don’t like. It’s what people in Detroit do to Charlie Sheen. It’s what kids do before an adult tells them to stop or go on a timeout. But look at the comments from the liberal blog Political Carnival… Progressives Rock! this makes me happy – love these people What a Beautiful Sound let’s see if FOX shows this or better yet shows this without any anti No. No! This isn’t a beautiful sound – it’s the sound of idiots. Got that? IDIOTS YELLING. I would hate this behavior for exactly the same reasons if I saw conservatives doing this to a speaker. So here’s my question… When HAVE conservatives done this? Do they show up en masse at public rallies to keep Bernie Sanders or Michael Moore from speaking? UPDATE: A couple of people have said this isn’t new behavior – while the phrase ‘there is nothing new under the sun’ is itself pretty old, I actually believe what we’ve seen recently – and this is an example –IS something new in American politics. A new variant, at least. This is a group that is partially organized by groups with direct connections to the President surrounding and shouting down a political rally. I don’t recall that under Bush or Clinton or Bush or Reagan. UPDATE VIDEO I was wrong. There was clearly SOME intelligent liberal debate. - Lee Stranahan ..... As blinkered as it seems, there is a twisted logic to this, it was an idea that Marcuse came up called ‘repressive tolerance’ yes I know it’s already an oxymoron: Comment by narciso — 4/17/2011 @ 1:29 pm ..... Lee, this behavior is not about argument or even expression really. This is about acting out such that it makes the actor feel reinforced about his tribal membership in “Leftism” even if he has no clue what his own principles are. Its basically juvenile behavior. Comment by SPQR — 4/17/2011 @ 1:42 pm ..... Look on the bright side. At least the Dems and their supporters aren’t murdering thousands of people who oppose them, like they did in the years after the Civil War. Maybe, they’re progressing…so to speak. .......... Mr. Stranahan, Actually, the union supporters seeem to act like the Nazi’s seen in the movie Cabaret. imdb.com The tactic wasa to bust up meetings and rallies of the opposition party and scare opponents. Airborne All The Way Comment by Airborne All The Way — 4/17/2011 @ 2:08 pm .... ..... Loudly drowning out a very well spoken 14 year old girl platform speaker (as shown on an Althouse video) and calling her a KOCH-sucker showed great courage and maturity by the leftist mob, I thought. Some of these people are teachers? Of our youth? I listened to Palin’s speech over a CBS online feed. I can almost guarantee that what she actually said about union members in general and teachers in specific would have surprised many within the rude mob had they actually allowed themselves to hear what she was saying. They love to assure each other that she’s hatey and racist and stupid and extreme but refuse to let her be heard. You’d think that if she were all of those things the left would want to world to witness it, be eager to show proof of it, rather than drown her out with drums and cowbells. The Wisconsin protesters are destroying themselves and their “cause” in front of the nation. Comment by elissa — 4/17/2011 @ 2:55 pm ..... When HAVE conservatives done this? Do they show up en masse at public rallies to keep Bernie Sanders or Michael Moore from speaking? There’s the Patriot Guard Riders, who show up at military funerals to stop any protesters from disrupting the event. “Any protesters” currently means “the Westboro Baptish Church aholes”, because they’re the only ones currently pulling such tactics, but the Patriot Guard Riders specifically say that they’re apolitical and would stop any protesters trying to disrupt the funeral, no matter who the protesters are. As far as I know, that’s the closest you’ll find on the conservative side of things to trying to shut down debate of any kind, and it’s a “take it elsewhere, this isn’t the place” kind of thing.** Comment by Milhouse — 4/17/2011 @ 3:02 pm .....They aren’t liberals. They are Fascists. patterico.com When have you seen conservatives acting like this? weaselzippers.us