To: Knighty Tin who wrote (127350 ) 4/22/2011 1:25:48 AM From: Skeeter Bug 2 Recommendations Respond to of 132070 >>So, effectively, everyone in the Hawaiian state govt. is maintaining secrecy better than any Mafia crew has ever maintained Omerta?<< that's a straw man, which is why you used it in order to avoid addressing the actual issue - Obama hasn't presented his birth certificate and he immediately sealed all of his college documentation the first day he was in office. all you do is make excuses for what hasn't been presented to the tune of millions of cover up dollars. even if he was born in hawaii, which is possible, he was adopted by and indonesian. just like a haitian child adopted into america, an america child adopted into indonesia is an indonesian. i'm not sure what he's hiding, but there is no doubt he's hiding something. promoting an obviously fake document is very telling - he knew it was fake and he just hoped the people were stupid enough to fall for it. it worked, >>Over two gubernatorial administrations?<< another straw man and an outright lie. the incoming democrat governor said he was going to end this issue once and for all... until he found the birth certificate didn't exist...dailymail.co.uk this is from the democratic governor - the birth certificate doesn't exist, a "notation" exists, but he isn't going to let anyone see said "notation," so just trust him. and keep the federal money flowing. we know politicians don't lie. -lol- >>and since when is it a blatant lie to say that something called a Certificate of Birth is not a Birth Certificate? Is it the placing of the words that twists your panty hose?<< another straw man. the certificate of live birth wasn't official - it was a fake. the graphics weren't even correct. it wasn't stamped. it wasn't official. that's the problem. i know you like what obama represents... 1. unlimited treasury theft for the world's richest people. 2. war budgets larger than bush to murder people and increase corporate profits. 3. a wall street prosecution free area. 4. austerity for the people to pay for wall street bailouts. 5. anti glass-steagall 6. anti-derivatives restrictions - all $600-$1,600 trillion of them with the tax payers on the hook when they go bad. 7. gitmo holding un charged people. 8. executive assassinations. 9. criminal wire tapping. 10. criminal patriot act. 11. promoting the criminal credit bubble / bust operation of the fed. 12. promoting the criminals that are causing starvation the world over... 13. 0% GE taxes, GE promotes taxes for the middle class and then gets that money in bailouts... 14. $200 million an hour of american small business mandated money stolen by the multi-nationals.market-ticker.org is a person who promotes the criminal also responsible for the crimes as well?