To: Brumar89 who wrote (33104 ) 5/12/2011 2:26:25 PM From: Maurice Winn 2 Recommendations Respond to of 36921 It's surprising how long it takes cultists to deprogramme when their leaders are found to be the frauds they always are:<Hansen and Mann are crooks. We all know it. Heck, even you do. > Some cults run for hundreds of years, even thousands if the cash flow taken is at hobby levels. Like playing golf, it doesn't achieve much other than a bit of fun, group identity formation and a topic for chatter, so it can go on for a long time. The CO2 cultists were getting too greedy though, and taking money from other people to pay for their hobby, so their life cycle didn't last long as the cash confiscation becomes annoying, not to mention being told what light bulbs to use, and being lectured day and night about recycling and other cult hobbies, none of which were funded by themselves. There seem to be few outright believers now outside those directly gaining from the CO2 cash flow. The rest seem to be seeing the light. It's Game Over for Mann Made Warming. 2020 reglaciation is coming, as predicted by me 2.5 years ago. I see some others have started to notice the trend and observed the low sun spot cycles during The Little Ice Age. Most people notice that in the depths of winter, if they turn a radiator down, they get colder, and if they turn it up a bit, they get warmer. The sun is a radiator. It keep Gaia warm, except that Gaia has been killing living things for a billion years, burying them in vast cemeteries of coal, shale, oil, gas, peat, limestone and tars. Gaia is a suicidal maniac. Fortunately, Sol's output has increased 30% over a few billion years so Earth is still warm and habitable in most places, compensating for the thinner atmosphere. Earth has entered an ice age and interglacials are the exception, not the norm. We are lucky to have enjoyed one for the last 20,000 years, but now it's drawing to a close and could shut with a bang in 2020. Mqurice