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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (611124)5/12/2011 3:27:19 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1577999
 
The thing is, wingnuts are so dumb, they BELIEVE that crap, and propogate it to everyone they know! Watch for it on Fox "news"!



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (611124)5/12/2011 5:06:17 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1577999
 
... According to a city report on lifeguard pay for the calendar year 2010, of the 14 full-time lifeguards, 13 collected more than $120,000 in total compensation; one lifeguard collected $98,160.65. More than half the lifeguards collected more than $150,000 for 2010 with the two highest-paid collecting $211,451 and $203,481 in total compensation respectively. Even excluding benefits like health care and pension, more than half the lifeguards receive a total salary, including overtime pay, exceeding $100,000. And they also receive an annual allowance of $400 for “Sun Protection.” Many work four days a week, 10 hours a day.

Lifeguarding in Newport Beach is a pretty good gig, if you can get it.

There is no denying that lifeguards protect swimmers and play a vital safety role in protecting numerous beachgoers every year. In 2010, the total number of rescues by Newport Beach lifeguards was 2,190. Even so, these salaries seem too generous, and the compensation levels don’t appear fiscally sane.

Currently, Newport Beach has 13 full-time active lifeguards and hires about 210 seasonal and part-time “tower” guards, Newport Beach City Manager David Kiff told us. Lifeguards are organized as part of the fire department. The Lifeguard Management Association represents the 13 full-time, salaried employees in collective bargaining with the city whereas the Association of Newport Beach Ocean Lifeguards represents the part-time, seasonal lifeguards.

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orangepunch.ocregister.com

Some animals are always more equal. See Animal Farm by George Orwell.



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (611124)5/12/2011 10:30:50 PM
From: Jim McMannis  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1577999
 
Your source must be out of date. Pre bubble.



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (611124)5/13/2011 12:39:23 AM
From: TimF1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1577999
 
Your link doesn't address the issue directly.

It shows the average salaries for all life guards in a jurisdiction. That would include part time life guards, life guards at pools, life guards at private beaches (if any) in the city, or any other lifeguards not covered by the specific union in question, etc.

The video itself explains that most of the life guards at part time and/or seasonal, earning $16 to $22 per hour. 20 hours a week at 20 dollars an hour for 20 weeks out of the year would get you $8,000. If you have a bunch of $8k part time seasonal lifeguards, plus lifeguards not covered by this contract who may be full time (other beaches, pool guards etc.), then you could easily have an average (esp. if its median but even if the average in question is the arithmetic mean) total pay for all life guards in the city at $24,000, while still having the city paid, full time, union, beach guards earning over $100k a year. Esp. since the claim was about total compensation, not just wages/salary.

Of course the weakness for the evidence backing your argument against the claim, isn't actually an argument for the claim. All I had to go by is a Youtube video, and a blog post claiming this level of compensation, and the blog post seems to be relying on the video, so its not independent evidence.

So since the evidence was so thin, I looked for a little more. -

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Some OC Lifeguards Make Over $200k, Report Shows

NEWPORT BEACH (KTLA) -- If you want to make some big bucks, lifeguarding might be the profession for you.

In Newport Beach, more than half of the city's 14 full-time lifeguards make over $100,000 a year, the Orange County Register reports, citing a city report on lifeguard pay for 2010.

Add on benefits, the Register says, and their total compensation is over $150,000.

The city's budget report shows that the highest-paid lifeguard battalion chief earned an annual salary of $119,000, and total compensation of $187,782.

With the addition of overtime and "night-time standby pay," the chief took home about $211,000.

Newport Beach's second highest-paid lifeguard collected over $203,000, the budget shows.

Most other lifeguards had salaries in the range of $60,000 to $100,000, plus benefits of about $42,000 to $62,000.

The lifeguards also get an annual allowance of $400 for "Sun Protection," the Register reports...

ktla.com

Lifeguarding in OC is totally lucrative; some make over $200k

High pay and benefits for lifeguards in Newport Beach is the latest example of frustrating levels of compensation for public employees. More than half the city’s full-time lifeguards are paid a salary of over $100,000 and all but one of them collect more than $100,000 in total compensation including benefits.

When thinking about career options with high salaries, lifeguarding is probably not one of the first jobs to come to mind. But it apparently should. In one of Orange County’s most desirable beach destinations, Newport Beach, lifeguards are compensated all too well; especially compared with the county annual median household income of $71,735.

It might be time for a career change.

According to a city report on lifeguard pay for the calendar year 2010, of the 14 full-time lifeguards, 13 collected more than $120,000 in total compensation; one lifeguard collected $98,160.65. More than half the lifeguards collected more than $150,000 for 2010 with the two highest-paid collecting $211,451 and $203,481 in total compensation respectively. Even excluding benefits like health care and pension, more than half the lifeguards receive a total salary, including overtime pay, exceeding $100,000. And they also receive an annual allowance of $400 for “Sun Protection.” Many work four days a week, 10 hours a day...

orangepunch.ocregister.com

Union Defends 13 Calif. Lifeguards Making Over $120,000: ‘Very Fair & Very Reasonable’

theblaze.com

OK so its only a small number of people. (14 full time lifeguards, plus however many retirees get benefits from this contract), but the point raised was correct.