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To: Road Walker who wrote (478)	5/17/2011 7:08:18 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 492

None of us are libertarians by nature, in fact the opposite. No we aren't the opposite by nature either. We're individually flexible (with people being libertarian in some ways, authoritarian or totalitarian in others, in between in more, and most often holding ideas that don't fit on that line at all), we're different from each other in many ways (some people are much more libertarian than others). To the extent there is a relevant central tendency here (and I don't think its a strong one), humans tend to care more about control when they are in charge or at least have influence with the person in charge, and to care more about freedom when some one is trying to control them or those they care about. Also people care more about control when the issue deals with people they don't like. They individually should have freedom, their trusted friends as well if perhaps a bit less, the average run of the mill person less still, and anyone they consider "the other" whether because of race, or class, or religion, or political views, or personal habits. In other words to a small extent its in our nature to want to control others. And to a small extent its in our nature to not want to be controlled ourselves. None of us are libertarians by nature, None of us are firmly any political ideology by nature (or though our nature includes personality traits that to an extent inclines us to all sorts of different views from libertarian, or even anarchy, to totalitarian). in fact the opposite. Not true. Sure we sometimes rebel around the edges Almost everyone, almost everywhere, rebels around the edges to some extent. Sometimes we do a lot more than that. Also libertarianism doesn't have much to do with rebelling. Its not "don't obey the rules" (although a libertarian might be more likely to choose not to do so, since he would be more likely to find certain active rules, unproductive, silly, an injustices), its about not imposing to many rules. And not necessarily even that, but not imposing a ton of highly controlling rules by false (rules agreed to are just fine). The only true libertarians are sociopaths and criminals. Bullshit. Sociopathy has no connection with libertarianism. OTOH totalitarians may be sociopaths (or at least act like one) a fair portion of the time. But even with that greater connection it would be unreasonable to say the only totalitarians are sociopaths.