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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (105053)	5/18/2011 10:35:55 AM
From: TideGlider	3 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224888

There you go again with your anti-Constitution nonsense. The Senate rules and Constitution procedure are meant to slow things down. It insures States rights as well. The Healthcare bill is an example of the worst piece of legislation ever pushed through the Senate by avoiding the regular rules. The late Senator Byrd a prominent Democrat and historian was aghast at manner in which it was passed.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (105053)	5/18/2011 10:43:30 AM
From: JakeStraw	4 Recommendations Respond to of 224888

The thread reaction to Kenneth's responses...

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (105053)	5/18/2011 10:50:08 AM
From: Bill	5 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224888

What the heck kind of lawyer are you?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (105053)	5/18/2011 10:57:18 AM
From: Jorj X Mckie	8 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224888

pssssst.....<whisper>the united states is not a democracy. no, no...really. in fact, right there in the pledge of allegiance it says so. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands one nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all Note that it doesn't say "and to the democracy for which it stands"? that's because we are very intentionally NOT a democracy. Why you ask? Because our founding fathers knew that a democracy is simply a license for a robin hood state where the have-nots vote themselves the assets of the haves. Or in their terms, a democracy is a tyranny of the masses. And we are seeing that today. The United States is a Constitutional Republic. Not that it much matters anymore when slick lawyers can take a document that was designed to limit the powers of government can interpret in such a way that it actually implements a tyranny of the masses. The best example of this is the idiots who twist the commerce clause to support the universal healthcare bill. Only a disingenuous lawyer type could find support for such an oppressive institution in the commerce clause. Democracies without a constitution are as evil as dictatorships. And it's time that that be exposed.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (105053)	5/18/2011 1:33:06 PM
From: chartseer	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224888

I agree! We need to go back to where the governor of the state appoints the senators instead of the people electing them. This way they could better represent the needs of that state. citizen chartseer