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To: C.K. Houston who wrote (447)11/16/1997 1:41:00 AM
From: C.K. Houston  Respond to of 9818
 
UTIITIES & Y2K & EMBEDDED SYSTEMS: Oh dear!

Automated systems are indeed widespread throughout power utilities. Exposure to the industry would in my opinion rate as extreme. At Western Power, our IT compliance project (cost around $3 million and employing 35 Full time employees) is trivial in comparison to the issues we face on the control and embedded systems front. Just leaving aside the problems associated with ensuring supply of such items such as fuel, from the weighbridges and conveyor systems through to intelligent metering and meter reading systems dates are endemic.

Many of the control systems represented in power systems, have dates associated with them. These could be reclosers, Voltage regulators, Governors, PLCs etc. The list is endless. You then have a swathe of actual 'applications' involved in the delivery of electicity such as your Distributed Control Systems and your SCADA (System Control and DATA (eg.dates) Acquisition) systems, all of which have dates associated with them. Much of what happens throughout the process of generating and delivering electricity is 'DATE AND TIME STAMPED'.

A typical DCS at a power station will have many thousands of processors associated with it. ANy one prepared to give me a guarantee that my DCS wont experience a date problem?? (I can't even get the manufacturer to give me this). Anyone prepared to run a Power Station when the DCS is throwing alarms up at you that indicates its getting no reading or a peculiar reading either from a device it is monitoring or one of its front end processors ??

But this represents just a portion of your problems. You will also need to address your security systems, your alarm systems (fire, temperature, etc.) your environmental systems - what do you do with your waste water, your emissions etc.?? How do you monitor these and what control systems do you have in place? After all, your management (if you are managing) must know how much and over what TIME period things are occurring. Your employee protection systems - would your power station staff be happy running your power station for you when they know if they hit a panic button nothing s likely to happen??

Any suggestion that power systems don't use dates or could not be affected by the Year 2000 problem is at best ill-informed. But then, if this is a diirect quote from John Greer he did say they are not interested in what 'Day of the Year it is'. Strictly a power system is not interested in whether it's Monday or a Tuesday for it to operate correctly, the operators may well be (dates and times are important for us even at a metering level) but it will almost certainly have dates.

John Catterall
Western Power - Year 2000 Project Manager
(Note:these represent my views only and do not necessarily represent
the views of my company).
<<<All usual disclaimers!! >>>

From: jcatterall@ccmail.wpcorp.com.au
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 97 17:40:01 +0800
To: <year2000-discuss@year2000.com>
Subject: Re: Sightings: embedded systems
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<<<The above from the DeJager list. It is very
instructive in terms of what the average electric utility Y2K manager
is up against - it is written by an electric utility Y2K manager. And it
shows just how much more complex the Y2k problem is than many have
thought -- in case there is anyone here who still doubts that it is
complex.



To: C.K. Houston who wrote (447)11/16/1997 2:17:00 PM
From: C.K. Houston  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9818
 
Y2K BANKING: Year 2000 Solutions for Banks
marketpartners.com

Excellent site for bankers or anyone connected to banking industry. This is not an endorsement of MarketPartners. However, they're the FIRST company I've seen geared to this sector.

The major banks have been working on Y2K for some time. However .... from Senate Subcommitte Testimony ... Savings & Loans, Community Banks and certain regional banks are doing almost next to nothing! These institutions are in jeoprady and will be the first to fail.

"Firewalls" are being developed so that Y2K non-compliant financial institutions will NOT be able to do business with the Federal Reserve and larger financial institutions.

If you are dealing with a Savings & Loan or a smaller regional and/or community bank ... you might want to email this link to them.

Also, send them Yardeni's House Testimony (couple of links back). That should REALLY wake them up.

Cheryl

P.S. Everyone has to make their own judgement calls on what to do ... when. Whether they believe this is a problem or not. When things will get BAD. If things will bet BAD. FYI - I've called my parents and have already told them to NOT roll CD's over at any of the institutions I've mentioned.