SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: i-node who wrote (611921)5/18/2011 7:46:10 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578436
 
Batteries versus the Volt: Production constrained by supplies

Is it the car, or the battery?
hybridcarblog.com
Who plays a bigger role, GM or battery producers?

In my humble, but experienced opinion, the problem with plug-in vehicles has little to do with automotive technology. It’s all about the batteries. Even basic hybrid cars have faced serious supply-constraint issues that forced automakers like Toyota to develop their own supply chains for hybrid battery parts – which is why Toyota sells hundreds of thousands of hybrids per year while Ford sells just tens of thousands of hybrids per year.

And, already GM is facing a similar problem with the Chevy Volt.

While we’ve heard the reports before, some 250,000 people have expressed interest in the Chevy Volt. Unfortunately, only 10,000 Volts will be produced the first year, followed by 45,000 cars the following year. Consequently, GM is reportedly interested in increasing production, as much as doubling or tripling production according to AutoWeek.

Of course, can they afford to?

Before the Toyota Highlander hybrid launched, for example, more than 100,000 people expressed interest in that vehicle. It took several years, however, to achieve 100,000 Highlander hybrid sales. The hype outweighed the actual demand.

Obviously, the Chevy Volt is a whole different animal. For some, knowing that their foreign oil footprint is 0, at least in terms of gasoline consumption, is priceless. I’m one of those people, and despite my constant Volt criticism, I would actually consider buying a Volt.

But after a decade of hybrid and plug-in advocacy, I’ve come to realize that vehicles like the Volt offer very little short-to-midterm potential to fight foreign oil dependence. And, while my personal consumption is one thing, my real focus is total US foreign oil consumption, not just my consumption.

Anyway, while Highlander hybrid interest instantly waned, Volt interest is sure to stick around, at least to some extent. But if GM is already essentially selling the Volt at cost, can they afford to make a big battery investment too early?

Just because GM claims they might be able to sell so and so many Volts per year doesn’t mean that battery producers are going to accept that prediction on faith. GM will have to put down the Benjamins. Considering that GM is already into the Volt for a cool billion and profitability is nowhere in sight, how much more can GM bet on the Volt?

Suppliers, for instance, aren’t going to want to build out production for 100,000 Volts per year, and then have to quickly scale back to 50,000 Volts per year. Like any business they would rather ramp up production based on sustainable long term demand.

Will there be sustainable long term demand for 100,000 Volts per year?

Maybe, but such demand will probably require either massive government incentives – in the US or elsewhere – or a major battery breakthrough. Both are possible, but if one were making odds in Vegas, the odds wouldn’t be overwhelming.

Certainly, this conundrum isn’t surprising. It has defined battery-powered cars thus far. Still, according to experts, plug-in profitability is significantly centralized in lithium cell production – something that just doesn’t happen in the US.

Consequently, will the Volt ever be profitable without US cell production, or at least GM et al partnered production?

Is cell production itself far more important than the Volt?

Never have I doubted GM’s ability to build the Chevy Volt. Of course, never have I thought that the ability to build the Volt really meant anything. It’s never been about the car itself, at least not for me, it has always been about the battery. And, already, the battery is controlling GM’s every Volt move.



To: i-node who wrote (611921)5/19/2011 11:14:25 AM
From: Alighieri  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1578436
 
Demand for fuel efficiency sparks Volt production rise
GM to build 1,000 more than planned in '11, 15,000 extra in '12
Christina Rogers / / The Detroit News

Last Updated: May 19. 2011 1:00AM

General Motors Co. has made it official: It's boosting production of its electric Chevrolet Volt.

The Detroit automaker said Wednesday it will build 1,000 more Volts than planned this year — about 16,000 in total — and increase production to 60,000 cars in 2012, up from the 45,000 previously targeted.

GM officials said they're upping production — long expected — to meet strong demand for the battery-powered car, which comes with a backup gas engine. With gas prices hovering around $4 a gallon, GM and other automakers are eager to capitalize on the car-buying public's new lust for fuel efficiency.

GM will shut down its Detroit-Hamtramck plant, where it makes the Volt and its export version, the Opel Ampera, for four weeks starting in June to retool for added production. The carmaker will also build its next-generation 2013 Chevrolet Malibu at the plant, starting late next year.

The production hiatus will further constrain Volt supplies at dealers heading into the summer months, GM warned, but will better prepare the company for the 2012 Volt's nationwide rollout in the second half of this year, said Cristi Landy, directory of Chevrolet Volt Marketing. GM initially launched the 2011 Volt in a handful of markets, including New York, California and Washington, D.C., in December.

"By taking the time to reconfigure the plant, we will be better able to meet the tremendous consumer demand," Landy said.

GM's CEO Dan Akerson has pressed for more Volts "faster" and set production goals higher with hopes of eventually building more than 100,000 a year. Akerson also has challenged the Volt team to investigate ways to cut $10,000 in costs out of the high-tech vehicle. The car retails for $41,000, minus $7,500 in tax incentives.

Of the 16,000 Volts planned for this year, about 2,500 will go to dealer demonstration fleets, and another 3,500 will be built for export to China, Canada and Europe, GM officials said. The remaining 10,000 Volts will be sold in the United States — that hasn't changed, GM said.

Of the 60,000 Volts GM will build for 2012, about 45,000 will go on sale at U.S. dealers.

GM officials wouldn't say if the increased production would add jobs at the Detroit-Hamtramck plant or require additional investment there. GM announced last week it would spend $2 billion at 17 U.S. locations to make upgrades. The move would create or keep about 4,000 jobs in eight states.

"We're not talking about jobs yet," said Michelle Bunker, a Chevrolet spokeswoman, of hiring plans for the Detroit-Hamtramck factory.

The plant is running on one shift but soon will stop building the Buick Lucerne and Cadillac DTS — two models GM is retiring. It employs about 958 hourly and 159 salaried people. Workers will be laid off during the shutdown, said GM spokesman Chris Lee.

So far this year, GM has sold about 1,700 Volts, including 493 last month, according to tracking firm AutoData Corp. But while GM has been ahead — it was the first to bring this hybrid-style plug-in to market — its rivals are quickly catching up.

"There is going to be a host of new competition coming out, which is good and bad for GM," said Dave Sullivan, an Ann Arbor-based auto analyst with AutoPacific, Inc.

While more plug-in electrics on the road could help raise awareness and expand the charging infrastructure, it will also mean more automakers vying for a still small population of buyers willing to consider a battery-powered car, Sullivan said.

"At the same time, fuel prices are expected to remain within the $4 a gallon range," he added. "And I think GM is putting all its chips in that fuel prices are going to remain high."

crogers@detnews.com

(313) 222-2401

From The Detroit News: detnews.com



To: i-node who wrote (611921)5/24/2011 8:48:17 PM
From: combjelly  Respond to of 1578436
 
"I'm sure INTC commonly produces 300 processors in a month "

Poulson is probably in that range.