To: bentway who wrote (611957 ) 5/18/2011 11:16:51 PM From: i-node Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1578655 >> The Leaf has the same problem, Actually, it doesn't. The Volt is rated at 40 miles, gets 25, which after applying heavy arithmetic, it turns out is 62.5% of the advertised value which is already low enough to make it useless. The Nissan, OTOH, gets basically its rated value -- 99% of 100 miles. That's 99 miles to you. And 99 miles is plenty to get a lot of people to and from work every day.Not to mention it comes in $10,000 lower in price than the Volt, and is made by Nissan, a quality manufacturer, versus GM, in which quality control is managed by union personnel worried about employees not having to reach more than 18" to install a part. Honestly, these cars would never be right for me. But I cannot IMAGINE choosing the Volt over the Leaf. What is the point of owning an ELECTRIC if you're going to have to put gas in it? AND WHY IN HELL IS OUR GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZING THE VOLT TO THE SAME EXTENT AS THE LEAF (assuming, arguendo , that you think subsidizing these things makes any sense in the first place????) -========================== "Analysts have been worried that Nissan’s first all-electric car, the 2011 Nissan Leaf, would average a lot less than the 100 miles per charge the automaker claimed. After testing from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), it turns out that Nissan was spot on. “The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has approved its fuel-economy label for the 100-percent electric Nissan LEAF, rating the vehicle to be “best” in the midsize vehicle class for fuel efficiency and “best” for the environment,” Nissan Motor Corporation reports in a press release. “The new label shows a best-in-class 99 miles-per-gallon (MPG) equivalent (combined city/highway).” That means the Leaf will net 106 miles in the city and 92 on the highway." While these numbers meet expectations, it’s important to keep in mind that the range will vary. The Boston Globe explains. “Mark Perry, Nissan North America's director of product planning and strategy, said the vehicle's range would vary based on driving conditions. Tests conducted by the Federal Trade Commission, which regulates advertising claims, had estimated a range of 96 to 110 miles per full charge and the company's internal tests had found a broader range of 64 to 138 miles, Perry said.”