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To: Ellen who wrote (18653)	11/16/1997 9:24:00 AM
From: Pugs	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 55532

Man! Doesn't KUGLER or SMartin EVER SLEEP!!! Man, I guess they reall y got their work cut-out for them! Don't lose sleep over them, get out your calculator and DO THE MATH!!!! The Calvary alone is waiting for CERTIFICATION of 300,000 shares!!! We have, it appears, NO MORE THAN 5% IN CERT FORM, the numbers were achieved very 'casually', send HRAKA ALL YOUR CERT INFO SO WE CAN GET A MORE ACCURATE READ ON THE #'S, BUT, OUR FOCUS MUST BE ON OBTAINING OUR CERTS!!! DON'T PLAY W/ KUGLER & SMARTIN ALL NIGHT, SAVE UP THAT ENERGY FOR CALLING UP YOUR BROKERS, WRITING LETTERS & CALLING YOUR OCAL NASD, PRESSURE THEM FOR YOUR CERTS!!! OUR SHARE COUNT IS ASTRONOMICAL....NOW WE HAVE TO CERTIFY IT!!!!TELL YOUR BROKERS: dailywav.com ,LETS FINISH WHAT WE STARTED!!!, Pugs

To: Ellen who wrote (18653)	11/16/1997 9:34:00 AM
From: TideGlider	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 55532

Ellen: I have been reading this thread from time to time since August. BB stocks are very hard to research, at least for me. I was reading this link and wondered if IYO this stock reasembles any of the warning sign categories? I would love to make money on a low priced stock. Can you tell me the nature of the business? Where is the bottled water sold, how much profit...etc. Customers of any of the products. stockdetective.com Thank you Bruce

To: Ellen who wrote (18653)	11/16/1997 9:45:00 AM
From: Ellen	Respond to of 55532

From Riley G - Saturday, Oct 11 1997 5:33PM EST Reply #4506 of 4990 What is the shareholder cartel. 1. The term cartel is used for the lack of a better word. 2. The Shareholder cartel was formed by me as a means to count the public shares of OVIS shares on the public market. As I and many others expected to find many extra shares that have flooded the market. The only way for this to have happened is through the blatant selling of nonexistent shares by the market markers to new or old investors buying OVIS shares. 3. Once I had counted some 2.1 million OVIS shares on the market. I new that the market had been flooded with at least 500,000 extra shares. I and others also expect that there maybe between 2 to 3.5 million extra shares in the OVIS market place that should not legally be there. 4. We the members of the shareholder value cartel are each individuals acting on our own in a common cause to achive our proper shareholder value. We are for all shareholders and not just for ourselves. This means that we do not sell any shares until each individuals shareholder value is recieved. We do not flood the market with our shares if we decide to sell them, as OVIS has a small public float and this would collapse it. Thus damaging other shareholders value. 5. The calling of the stock certificates was a last ditch effort as we believe the Market Markers had banned together to hammer the stock back under a dollar and into the pennies again. We were left with no choice in the matter but to take this drastic action as they were trying to decrease or share value through an induced panic selling. This was witnessed by myself and others on the Friday afternoon, before I asked each member to start calling for certificate delivery. The closing on that Friday and trading the next Monday showed heavy signs of this attempted induction of a panic sell which failed as more people bought shares on the dips to stabilize the stock. ----- Based upon the past 9 months eps of .085 cents OVIS should have been trading at $2.125 to $2.5 per share. Based upon the 12 month projected revenues of 15 million plus dollars, I see OVIS trading at $15 to $20 per share. A far cry from the .19 cents I found the stock at when I first started buying it in Aug. 1997. Riley G

To: Ellen who wrote (18653)	11/16/1997 9:46:00 AM
From: Ellen	Respond to of 55532

Oct 2 1997 7:59PM EST Reply #129 of 2376 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 16:38:28 -0700 Riley and everybody, especially the new comers, We are all smart people here. Sure we have our differences but we can all consider ourselves smart or intellectually capable of making decisions, choosing what's right or wrong, and telling if we are being saved or just totally misled. For those who are not newbies here on this thread, you have seen the amount of posts the NAYSAYERS, have posted on SI. The naysayers spent hours of trashing OVIS and posting false information about OVIS. They are always the same people that does that (just trashing OVIS), and yet they claim that they have no interest in OVIS at all. They post false information all the time, because, as what Randall Baker (the representative of the Magellan Law Suit), they simply want to halt the trading of OVIS. WHY? because they are SHORT! For the Newbies, the Naysayers, are the one's who doesn't have any position in OVIS and yet they trash, post false information, and slander the company OVIS. These people spend hours of their time just bashing the OVIS thread even if they don't even own a single stock. Put yourself in their position and ask yourself if you would do the same thing unless you have any HIDDEN AGENDA. Now decide whether to believe them or not. It is easy to pay a naysayer $100,000.00 just to bash OVIS and try to shake out some shares than to pay an easy $8million to a group of shareholders who has more than 400,000 shares when the price of ovis reaches $20/share.This is just an example. During the squeeze, it is "SKY IS THE LIMIT". Iomega took off to $330/share. Presstek hit more than $200/share. The MM's knows that their time is running out. Thats why they(Naysayers) are in full force trying to scare the UNKNOWING into selling their shares. Of course, we are not stupid enough to just fall for their preys. I myself spoke to Randall Baker of the Magellan Law suit. They are not after the investor's welfare but just theirs. They are so scared about the runup of OVIS. What does this tell you? They have done something ILLEGAL and will soon pay for it. Be smart. You can easily tell if you are dealing with a person or a vampire. Newbies and cartel members, don't believe "the saviors" on this thread. They are not after your welfare, THEY ARE AFTER YOUR SHARES. If OVIS was not illegally shorted...how come people like MAWORK1, ALOHA, KUGLER AND MCDONALD ARE WORKING ROUND THE CLOCK IN BASHING/TRASHING OVIS. You can easily tell that they have a hidden agenda. AGAIN, BE SMART! GO OVIS! THE CAVALRY NOT SELLING! CALL IN YOUR CERTIFICATES AND CONFIRM EVERYDAY IF YOU HAVE TO.

To: Ellen who wrote (18653)	11/16/1997 9:47:00 AM
From: Ellen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 55532

From: Riley G Oct 2 1997 10:05AM EST Reply #76 of 4435 Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 08:50:35 -0500 Subject: naysayers Riley, There is an excellent article in the October issue of Forbes/ASAP on about page 104 regarding the use of the internet by shorters to drive down stock prices. The articly describes in eerie fashion a parallel of events happening in OVIS. Apparently, what is happening at OVIS is standard procedure for shorters/naysayers. The naysayers do what they do because it works. My reading of the article indicates that the best course of action is for vigilant and informed people (ovis shareholders who have done the dd and reseach to continuously respond to slander with factual information, while avoiding getting dragged into fights, arguments and speculation. This will help new investors see what is going on, who is credible and who isn't. Many humor the naysayers, or think they are just grouchy, amusing themselves, jealous. NO. People do things for reasons. It is a fact of life. The people bashing your stock are bashing it so that you will lose money and they will make money. Even if I am wrong about the naysayers being in cahoots with MMs, it still works out that since psychological factors affect stock prices, these people are hurting you by plying misinformation. My all time favorite post was the one implying that hand and hand are in cahoots with ovis, and that the fake news was all part of a grand conspiracy to make it look like ovis was under attack even though they secretly aren't. - Using this logic, my new theory is that Kugler, Aloha, McNeese et al. are actually long in OVIS, and post negatively, knowing that the effect of their bad mouthing OVIS will have a reverse psychological effect and drive up the price so they can cash out rich with their expensive OVIS. makes sense, right? It is not libel to post a reasoned opinion (an opinion that actually has some kind of conclusion based on fact) - my concluded opinion is that naysayers logically must have some interest in making OVIS look bad. This leads me to conclude that they are deceptive manipulators (read "liars"). Just my opinion. ----- Riley G