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To: i-node who wrote (613161)	5/26/2011 3:08:12 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1583362

Because 95% of the world's scientists agree with the premise that something negative is happening. We have scientists for a reason. Stop playing and start listening to what they have to say. There is not anything approaching a consensus on this. You're totally making shit up. No, I am not. The dissidents get all the press. From John Huntsman: All I know is 90 percent of the scientists say climate change is occurring. Read more: swampland.time.com I have read numbers higher than 90%. Then there is this poll: "Two questions were key: Have mean global temperatures risen compared to pre-1800s levels, and has human activity been a significant factor in changing mean global temperatures? About 90 percent of the scientists agreed with the first question and 82 percent the second. The strongest consensus on the causes of global warming came from climatologists who are active in climate research, with 97 percent agreeing humans play a role. Petroleum geologists and meteorologists were among the biggest doubters, with only 47 percent and 64 percent, respectively, believing in human involvement." articles.cnn.com The doubters were petroleum geologists/meteorologists to which you all listen. Why do you think they believe the way they do despite what the vast majority of scientists believe? Come on, Dave, you're not stupid. Stop buying into money created mythology.

To: i-node who wrote (613161)	5/27/2011 1:24:32 PM
From: combjelly	Respond to of 1583362

"There is not anything approaching a consensus on this. You're totally making shit up." Only if you define "consensus" as "100% agreement, including the flakes"... Are there some naysayers? Yes. But a large majority are in rough agreement. Where there is disagreement is over things like the rate and what the near term affects will be. About the only dissenting bodies are some for geologists. Which is not a huge surprise because a lot of them depend on the oil industry for employment. Now as to polls of scientists. In recent polls, even the most dubious groups are close to half, with economic geologists(who have ties to oil industry and other extraction industries) is just under 50%. Amongst other scientific specialties, it is no contest. Anywhere from a large majority to an overwhelming majority are on the climate change boat, even if you exclude climatologists. If anyone is totally making shit up it is you. Per usual.