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To: combjelly who wrote (613638)	5/28/2011 5:57:53 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 1577883

But pretty much all weather phenomena has gotten more extreme over the past few decades. And the rate seems to be increasing. Wrong. our models vastly improved when we started to use it. It, being chaos theory. Wrong also. Climate models still suck. The affect of chaos theory has been that modelers recognize the impact initial conditions have on results and run their models a bunch of times with differing initial conditions, then average the various results .... which doesn't really produce better predictions.

To: combjelly who wrote (613638)	5/28/2011 7:07:22 PM
From: longnshort	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1577883

all of my sons computer engineering professors and engineering work mates say the modeling is bullshit. They say there's no man made Global warming

To: combjelly who wrote (613638)	5/30/2011 1:04:50 PM
From: TimF	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577883

when a chaotic system transitions from one strange attractor to another, the system starts hitting extremes. Can be used as an argument, or really a pseudo-argument, for just about anything. It doesn't show, or strongly imply that a warming globe would lead to more tornadoes. In any case we don't have evidence of strong recent warming, or of a significant increase in tornadoes (this year is a bad year, but that's largely more tornadoes hitting towns and cities, and to the extent its an actual increase in number and/or severity of tornadoes, it follows a recent span of no confirmed F5 or EF5 tornadoes from 1999 to 2007.