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Politics : Idea Of The Day -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: C.N.S. who wrote (14466)	11/16/1997 6:50:00 PM
From: donald sew	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 50167

CNS, I first will thank you for posting here on the Ideas thread since that is where it belongs since it started here. I do not feel it was appropiate to continue a discussion where not all the readers would understand. Yes I did have suspicions that you may have other motives for posting it there, which I will take back since you have permitted me to respond in detail. Firstly, when Tom used my name for one of his arguements, I was bothered, especially since it was not totally correct. I then set the issue straight which was that I originally left the thread relatively quietly with only one comment towards IKE. Secondly, I felt it necessary to step in when NK made the rediculous wager, and then the aggressive attack on TOM, which I felt were much greater of an attack than the ones between IKE and TOM. Thirdly, NK came back and used what I said about TOM's earlier comments and totally turned it around for his own benefit by using what I said as one confirmation that TOM was lying. I have never stated that I would stop posting on SI as you stated, but that I would stop posting on the IDEAS thread since it was getting too cult-like for me here. It was not a threat, it was my position and opinion. Is it a strong comment - I even have to agee that it is, but based on what I see and my parameters of judging situations I still maintain that position. Again, as I said before - for anyone to be as animated as IKE with his position, one has to assume that he will come under strong scrutiny when he is wrong, and strong praises when he is right. On this thread I have noticed that the scrutiny is far less than the praises. There is a lack of balance in that sense and also the lack of balance in opposing positions. I rarely get as opinionated as I have today, and be my guess to check my previous posts. I had sincerely attempted to come back quietly to start posting here again. As to address you concerning my manipulation when I first left the ideas thread, I had admitted to many that I did believe him that he did not mean to attack me, although at the time of the actual incident I did think that he was. My intent was to leave relatively quietly, since I did believe that he was sincere and unselfish with his knowledge. If I had explained all of my feelings toward him, it would not have been quiet. Now since I chose to leave somewhat peacefully, that is interpreted as manipulation by you. Yes, many who I discussed this matter with understood that there were plenty of other reasons I left, I just did not want to discuss them on the thread since what good would it do. Yes, I just did not want to deal with him, but many also knew that since I responded that way to the many emails I received at that time. There was no secret, just I did not post it here. As for why I made such strong comment toward NK is that he was using my name for his own purpose. OK, now IKE has upped the anty. How much further does it have to go. Correct me if Im wrong but TOM did not even respond to NK before IKE increased the wager. As for defending TOM, I still vouch for his integrity - but at the same time I had to also corrected him for mis-interpreting my position. Besides my comments to TOM, I had no intentions to further get involved since I felt that both TOM and IKE were taking things too far. But the attack from someone who does not post often, at such level could not go without comment from me. Review, NK's comment to me and see for yourself if there is alot of logic to his post. He even requested me to join and help defend IKE, or did I read that wrong. I will not attack you, since it is your opinion, although I will readily admit that I felt that you did have other motives, which I have since taken back and I apologise for. Well, if you do not respond further, I will say so long. Donald