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To: combjelly who wrote (613921)	5/31/2011 5:27:37 PM
From: TimF	3 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1577952

Tim, this is a straw man argument. Again you either don't know what the term defining a type of argument means, or your being careless in its use, or your using it dishonestly. A straw man argument is setting up a false argument for the other side, and then preceding to demolish it. The only argument I presented for you was a direct quote from you. "when a chaotic system transitions from one strange attractor to another, the system starts hitting extremes". That's not really an argument, its more of an argument fragment, but you don't actually develop it in to a full argument in your post, and if you had my fault would be quoting you out of context, but not making a straw man argument in your name. It is a chaotic system. It doesn't behave in a straight line fashion. Exactly. Which shows that a year of bad tornadoes, or even a decade of changes, doesn't show much. The extreme weather phenomena are chaotic, and to an extent cyclic (with multiple different cycles over different times). They are also subject to various biases in measurement, in the past many cases of extreme weather (strong hurricanes that don't make landfall before considerably weakening, tornadoes that don't hit built up areas, etc.) wouldn't even be noted. The record is more complete since 1950, but its been improving even since then so its more complete, and thus gives larger numbers now, also 6 decades is not long enough to tell us much about if weather is generally getting better. The sea level rise averages millimeters per year (going by the IPCC, some estimates have it in tenths of a mm per year, part of the larger figure is an adjustment for land rising as ice that was on it melts, but then part of the measured increase would also represent land being at a lower level after erosion or other shifts in the land, the figures can be adjusted in all sorts of ways, and with or without adjustments they are presented with a false level of precision), its not an extreme weather event, which was the subject of the conversation.