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To: koan who wrote (39)	6/9/2011 12:28:46 PM
From: denizen48	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71

Peace, brother. >>The likes of Ospensky and Gurdjieff recognized the perception of seeing. Sort of like another dimension, but really jsut abstract thinking. Many of the great thinkers talk about it. Like Heraclit, 600 BC: They stand in the clearing, but they don't see. They have ears, but they don't hear.

To: koan who wrote (39)	6/29/2011 11:55:57 PM
From: Hawkmoon	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71

Those are just my ideas. I don't have any other feelings about them. If others disagree, so be it Ideas are the essence of philosophy. The struggle to make sense out of our existence when the scientific data fails to fully satisfy our instinctive belief in more than three dimensional reality. Others have stated that (to paraphrase) that "science is the art of revealing god". I tend to take this stance. Just because we don't have all the necessary data on hand doesn't mean that we can exclude the existence of something beyond our 3 dimensional understanding. I often use this simple (if silly) analogy. I imagine that I'm in a Peanut's cartoon, living my existence on a 2 dimensional world. I have no understanding of the 3 dimensional hand of the artist that is creating my world, frame by frame, but I can theorize about his existence as a guiding force in my life. The same can be said for our three dimensional existence. Many of us sense the existence of other dimensions of reality, especially time. Who's to say that, like Charlie Brown and Linus, our lives are not also being shaped by an author/animator/programmer who resides in a dimension of time and space that we cannot fathom? More concisely, who's to say that "God" isn't just some cosmic programmer of a vast "SimUniverse" who has pressed "Enter" and set the program in motion according to 3 dimensional "code"? And cannot this entity then choose whether or not to intervene at it's whim and fancy? And consequently, I wonder if it is the nature of man to seek that "escape" key which will terminate the program? I know that sometimes I would just like to find the "pause" button.. ;) Hawk