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To: damniseedemons who wrote (14151)	11/16/1997 9:27:00 PM
From: Bill Harmond	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 24154

>>there is nothing that says prices have to drop. Sal, compare the price of Windows where they don't compete to the price declines they initiated with the Office bundling where they did. Since they won that segment, prices have stayed static. I don't have to mention Internet tools where they're desperate to win. Competition breeds lower prices. Where Microsoft has taken the category they've kept prices up.

To: damniseedemons who wrote (14151)	11/16/1997 9:35:00 PM
From: Columbo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24154

Anyway, the legal argument has little do with with, "is Windows a monopoly," but whether the Windows monopoly is being unfairly leveraged. This is what I don't understand. Isn't this pretty obvious? Don't you see this is the only industry where it is legal to dump there product. Getting users to switch software products is harder than getting a smoker to switch brands. MS figured this out a long time ago. It is kind of like crack and the drug dealers. MH #0

To: damniseedemons who wrote (14151)	11/17/1997 7:25:00 AM
From: Reginald Middleton	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 24154

<Reg, it's pretty-much impossible to buy a PC without a Microsoft OS shipping on it. So in that respect (buying a PC--I'm not talking about other platforms), consumers don't have a choice. But I guess you can't buy an Ultrasparc system without Solaris, an Apple without Mac, etc. :)> You are starting to show your age now:-) Macs are PCs. The original defeinition of PCs were IBM compatible, nobody gives a damn about IBM now, so now PCs are simply personal computers, of which MAC fits in nicely. As you pointed out, you certainly can buy a Mac without Windows. How about an Amiga without Windows (I truly don't know). An NC from Oracle or Sun without Windows (who knows, who cares)? All I stipulated was that the consumer does have a choice. The consumer purchases Wintel because they consistently offer the best deal. YOu can in fact buy the Power PC/Rhapsody/System 8 system, or the Sun Solaris/Sparc system, or the IBM AS4000/AIX system, of the HP, SGI, etc. systems, or the Digital Alpha systems, but they don;t. I have just listed a bunch of choices. There may be economic or functional reasons for not buying these systems, but that still doesn't negate the fact that the choice is present.