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To: Johnny Canuck who wrote (46772)6/9/2011 9:17:09 PM
From: Johnny Canuck1 Recommendation  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 70275
 
The real problem with Vancouver’s outrageous house prices

The international media have finally clued in to the wackiness on Canada's
west coast, otherwise known as the Vancouver real estate market. Last
month Bloomberg noted that when compared to median household incomes
Vancouver homes are more expensive than even New York. The story linked
soaring prices to the influx of wealthy buyers from mainland China. Today
the Wall Street Journal retraces the exact same material. The warning in
both pieces is clear: Vancouver's housing market has become disconnected
from reality and is primed to crash.

This is a well worn theme for many Canadian reporters. Here at Maclean's
we've reached the same conclusion several times going back to 2008, and,
admittedly, we've been proven fully and completely wrong. I still think
prices here in Vancouver are nuts, but each day as I walk to work past the
high-end coffee shops and panhandlers I see more "For Sale" signs going
up, along with plenty of "Sold" stickers, too.

But here's the thing. The real threat to Vancouver isn't that the housing
market might crash. That's happened here before. It undoubtedly will
happen again. Such is the boom & bust nature of real estate in Lotusland.

Far more insidious is the impact housing unaffordability is having on
employers and the broader economy. You hear stories of smart, young people
leaving for jobs elsewhere. At the same time smart, young people from
elsewhere aren't coming here for jobs. The price of real estate and cost
of living are too high, while pay is simply too low relative to other
parts of the country. Business in Vancouver, a local newsweekly, delves
into the dilemma in its latest issue with the story "Home truths hurt
talent search." (You need a subscription to read the story online but
here's the lead.)

To take a job in Vancouver, Calgary-based senior information management
consultant Joey Roa would have to give up living in a 3,000-square-foot
house just outside the downtown core. He'd have to give up his 20-minute
on-foot commute for what he figures would be "a considerable drive, at
best." He'd have to start paying provincial tax. He'd see his current
$1.15-per-litre gas prices rise to what he terms Vancouver's "insane" pump
prices.

And with Vancouver's salaries failing to keep pace with Calgary's oil-rich
pay scale, he'd likely be looking at a pay cut to boot.

Needless to say Roa is staying put in Calgary. He's turned down several
offers from head hunters in Vancouver, and the BIV story includes
recruiters who are having trouble luring educated and experienced workers
to the city. In short, Vancouver is increasingly being seen as a no-go
zone for top talent.

This is very bad. Worse arguably than if house prices crashed. As
Vancouver develops a reputation as a place where only the über-rich can
afford to buy property, it could seriously undermine the economy. Fewer
workers living here and earning good pay means a weaker income tax base
for the province (though the city is benefiting from property taxes) not
to mention less people with the means to shop, eat out and support local
businesses and the arts. In addition, if you don't have a vibrant and
enterprising population, chances are new companies won't get started.
Coupled with the scarcity and high costs of commercial real estate, more
companies are likely to move their head offices away. Earlier this month
mining giant BHP Billiton shifted its Canadian head offices from
Vancouver, a self-proclaimed global mining capital, to Saskatchewan. Who
knows how many businesses decided not to come in the first place.

Above all, if the economy is left weakened by departing head offices and a
scarcity of talented workers, it will leave Vancouver even more vulnerable
to that housing crash when it eventually comes. In economics Dutch Disease
refers to countries that are overly dependent on their natural resources
at the expense of other industries. Only here the culprit is real estate.
Call it the Vancouver Virus.

ca.finance.yahoo.com

[Johnny: There are a lack of economic drivers here in Vancouver right now. The HST has meant less disposable income. Restaurants have been hurting indicating less people are eating out. Housing and condo prices are up though after a few soft winter months. People forget that prices at the high end of the market fell 50% in the 1980's. Interest rates were sky high then, but it is all relative as low interest rates mean a 1 percent move is about a 25 percent increase in the monthly mortagage payment for some people. Given that salary increase have been muted and illegal suite will not absorb that type of increase, a world of hurt might be coming.

Foote talked about the changes due to demographic trends. A move by baby boomer to downside in 2015 when the bulk of them start to retire might add to the misery.]