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Gold/Mining/Energy : International Precious Metals (IPMCF) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Graystone who wrote (26997)11/17/1997 5:11:00 AM
From: Graystone  Respond to of 35569
 
There is an inertia in the investing public that is slowly disappearing. Our activities on this, and other forums, become the source of instant information. Poster provide links, post articles, debate, flame enjoy and generally do all the things that people do. Transgressions against the intellect and reason of a normal person do not have to be tolerated.

This latest news release, and the corresponding damage control by IPMCF, is very obvious. My opinion of this stock is right here.

exchange2000.com

I am not trying to attack the company, well maybe in that last post heheheh, they have done a sufficient job of shooting themselves in the foot with this news release. If people still buy it, their agenda would likely be different than mine.(no pun intended)

I suggested that people do a simple litmus test for this shell game. Find someone who doesn't know anything about the "lure of the desert" and let them read this companies history from the website and news releases. Stay away from Rotten Ronnie and the third party stuff, it is all just spin, just let them read the news releases. When they are done (it might help if they have a notebook in hand) let them go this site and read the financials if they so choose, you need Acrobat.

sedar.com

After they have read the material and made some notes, tell them they can go to their savings account and get money, offer them this stock for XXXXX amount of dollars/cents. This litmus test requires a breathing adult capable of reading who knows nothing about the desert dirts.



To: Graystone who wrote (26997)11/17/1997 6:07:00 AM
From: Rylan  Respond to of 35569
 
Your not gettin my shares shorty



To: Graystone who wrote (26997)11/17/1997 8:29:00 AM
From: Karl Zetmeir  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 35569
 
You've gone to a lot of effort in disecting IPM ...

You've made one very important point with the obfuscation and vociferousness of your attack:

When logic fails ... try humor.

One word for you Mr. Greystone ...

C O V E R ! ! !

pssssst! And don't quit your day job.



To: Graystone who wrote (26997)11/26/1997 6:30:00 AM
From: Graystone  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 35569
 
The Good Ship
All Aboard !!!

I suppose that there are lots of passengers on the Good Ship that are wondering what just happened to them.

I am glad to see that you come to the IPMCF thread for that valuable info on this industrious little group.

Everything is fine, things are looking brighter now. The Good Ship is the place to come and have a good time. It's been an exciting cruise so far with many wonderful sights appearing and disappearing as the Good Ship cruised by. I suppose that many of you have thought about what to buy for Christmas. Everybody is talking about the upcoming GIFT that will be used to do renovations on the Good Ship and maybe get the Captain and Crew better lifeboats. There are hopeful suggestions about possible cabin upgrades as well but that will take a lot longer. Some are just having fun, out by the pool, after all playful is what this is all about. You can see everybody reveling in the joy of having the Good Ship uncrowded, the right group is here to party hearty. Future plans are being made for the evening soiree where they serve the nicest little crackers. They are using the cutest phrases and picking out there favorite things about the cruise, after all, it doesn't really matter does it, ItsPretendMoney , the little elves are busy, little hints are being dropped just so all you passengers know that everything is fine. Everyone here is happy so thats just about the normal right now, no sad people on this trip on this trip, hip hip hooray, everybody here is amazingly intelligent and insightful, full of little witticisms that shows just how well read they actually are. This is just about the best thing that could happen for everybody left, just a happy little family, makes you just want to go right back out there and buy another ticket, doesn't it. heheheh. While you are at it, maybe you should be a real rotter and spoil the wife with another $10,000 of ItsPretendMoney,

The Good Ship has some leaks but thats fine, in Lotus Land ships never sink, didn't you know that. Unfortunatley Bateman is down in sick bay, the crew says recovery isn't possible, nobody is allowed to talk to him, its for the crews sake. Behre Dolbear went overboard and wasn't having such a good time on the cruise anyways. Some messy statements are being cleaned up, The hold of the Good Ship is temporarily filled with noisy stinking fish, they are dying, dead, guttering, going and many gone (heheheh). This was a little better fishing trip than expected and the Good Ship is very full. They will soon be dropped off at the La La Land Harbour where a load of nice fat living sheep will be picked up for the return trip to Lotus Land.

What have you just witnessed. Is it real ? If you wasted your time reading through this thread and you are not a poster then you are probably no better off than you were before. Let me explain everything. 6 business days ago IPMCF was floating around 5-6 dollars with 20,000,000+ shares out, today it is worth about a bit less, to you.

It is nevertheless, very valuable to others. Where did all your money go you wonder ? I think it unwise to ask all the best and brightest assembled here on this cruise, why, you figure it out. See if you can count how many messages have content on reality.

Special Contest. An Award of Monopoly Money Will be sent to Anyone who correctly identifies all the current passengers and crew on the Good Ship.

PS Research assistant required to look up and twist details.
CREW REQUIRED : MUST HAVE CLEAN DRIVERS RECORD AND ALL CURRENT CASE NUMBERS AVAILABLE.



To: Graystone who wrote (26997)11/28/1997 4:58:00 AM
From: Graystone  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 35569
 
Duh
or
Huh ?

I really can't believe that anyone at IPMCF thinks that they should have released the latest news. It certainly would seem like corporate suicide wouldn't it ? Have Slick Oily Doyle and Lying Le had enough, are they completely giving up. How far did you get in the release before your others got in the way of your others ? Whew, what a relief, glad that's all cleared up. In order to gain a clear picture of the situation you probably have to be aware of some roles played by Behre Dolbear and IPMCF. If you couldn't see the big blow off in the release then read on. If you did see it pardon me for being redumbdant. It is sometimes necessary to separate the yadda from the doo to see the clearly hidden.

Toronto, Ontario November 22, 1995
Behre Dolbear & Co., IPM's mining engineering consultants

Mining Engineering Consultants

Toronto, Ontario, December 15, 1995
Behre Dolbear & Co. Inc., mining engineering consultants, currently provide management and technical oversight...Behre Dolbear has been engaged in an ongoing program to aid IPM in a precious metals evaluation of the BRX project. On site observation ... Additionally, Behre Dolbear observed and monitored IPM's sample preparation laboratory to verify that sample preparation and treatment procedures consistently followed previously established accepted methodology....the IPM-developed leaching procedure

Managers, overseers, evaluators, observers, monitors, verifiers. IPMCF is using "previously established accepted methodology" - What is it? ...the IPM-developed leaching procedure


Toronto, Ontario February 23, 1996
Behre Dolbear & Co., Inc. is expected to optimize grades according to ...engineering parameters. Behre Dolbear will complete their report on the original one square kilometer grid

Optimizing, reporting

Toronto, Ontario June 4, 1996
(IPM) reported today that assays of concentrates have yielded

Because of this new development, IPM has requested Behre Dolbear & Co., Inc., independent consultants to IPM, to supervise
Supervising

Toronto, Ontario July 31, 1996
Release of assay and recovery parameters will be announced when Behre Dolbear reports...

Toronto, December 19, 1996
Samples recovered from its leach process were assayed by two independent laboratories...

Toronto, February 13, 1997
Accordingly, the company has instructed its mining engineering consultants, Behre Dolbear & Co., Inc.,... Additionally, IPM has asked Behre Dolbear to begin a two-phase program to determine the mining costs...

Determining

Toronto, Ontario March 11, 1997
Based on the data generated from the pilot plant program, on March 17, 1997, IPM will turn over to Behre Dolbear & Co., Inc. the recovery process procedures for their independent review/evaluation that IPM's leaching procedures are an effective recovery process.

Reviewing, Evaluating

Toronto, Ontario April 2, 1997
Lastly, IPM announced that Behre Dolbear & Company Inc. has commenced the next phase of analysis of Black Rock mineralization. This analysis will include the utilization of independent samples and ultimately the application of the precious metals recovery process to these independent samples.

Analyzing

Phoenix, Arizona May 1, 1997
IPM's long standing consultants Behre Dolbear & Co., Inc.

Toronto, Ontario (May 28, 1997)
IPM also announced that on May 19, 1997 Behre Dolbear & Co., Inc., consultant mining engineers, began an assessment of the Black Rock Project environs.

Assessing

Toronto, Ontario (June 24, 1997)
The independent verification of the recovery and fire assay process, by
Behre Dolbear & Company, Inc., the Company's mining engineering consultants and other independent and industry recognized laboratories, is ongoing and is expected to be completed within the next 30 to 45 days.

Independently verifying the recovery and fire assays process

Toronto, Ontario (August 4, 1997)
International Precious Metals Corporation (IPM) announced today that it has been advised by Behre Dolbear & Company, Inc., IPM's mining engineering consultants, that an additional 30 days is required to complete their independent fire assay analyses and review of IPM's recovery processes

Huh ? No longer verifying, now analyzing the fire assay, no longer verifying, now reviewing the recovery processes.

Phoenix, Arizona September 11, 1997
independent verification program has been expanded to include platinum group metals (PGM's) in addition to gold. Bateman Engineering Inc. has been engaged by the company to assist in the independent verification program"

Being assisted

...objective is to produce incontestable independent verification...

Toronto, Ontario - September 29, 1997
the independent verification program being conducted by representatives from Behre Dolbear & Company, Inc. and Bateman Engineering Inc. has been completed.

Huh ? Being neutralized, obfuscated, covered, willed out of existence.

Toronto, Ontario - November 14, 1997

The company's directors have received confirmation from an Arizona Registered Laboratory that a Modified Fire Assay Procedure

Independent verification by the modified fire assay procedures

Bateman Engineering Inc.,... has confirmed...using the nominated recovery process in the independent verification program.

Duh

from this link ipmcf.com

Behre Dolbear's role in IPM's programs has been limited to witnessing tests, and reporting thereon.

Huh ?
Duh

Toronto, Ontario - November 26, 1997
Behre Dolbear & Company, Inc., which was asked to audit gold content in
the Black Rock material, has now reported that measurable amounts of gold were obtained from the chain of custody sampling.

Duh

BY WHO ? USING WHAT PROCESS ? WHO HAS VERIFIED THE PROCESS ?

Further, Behre Dolbear also acknowledges in an addendum to its
report, that the results from chain of custody samples (reference sample 181B in IPM's press release of November, 14, 1997), forwarded to an Arizona registered laboratory indicated gold at between 0.02 to 0.042 oz/ton using a Modified Fire Assay Procedure.

Duh

WHOSE RESULTS ? BATEMANS ? USING THE IPM LEECH AGAIN ?

As indicated in the press release, other chain of custody samples taken by others indicated values of between 0.02 to 0.08 oz/ton.

Duh

WHOSE SAMPLES? USING WHAT METHOD, THE IPM LEECH AGAIN?

Toronto, Ontario - November 26, 1997
Behre Dolbear has indicated to IPM that Bateman Engineering Inc.'s specific experience makes it a more appropriate firm to assist IPM in its next phase....and will therefore not be undertaking any additional work for IPM at this time

Ya, no kidding.

Where the hell is this guy when you need him ? Huh ?
Phoenix, Arizona May 1, 1997
"Lycopodium has assigned a senior chemical engineer with PGM experience to head the technical team."
Confidentiality Agreement ????

Best Objective or The Star of Hope Award to IPMCF
"objective is to produce incontestable independent verification..."

Incontravertible, verified, independent verification of an assay, independent verification of the recovery method, Verfication is not analyses, Verification is not review

Worst Sentence Award to IPMCF
"other chain of custody samples taken by others."
And that is verified by recovery of...nothing.

I sincerely hope that you can relax this weekend.
Get Out.
It really is just a matter of time.
Where has all the money gone ?



To: Graystone who wrote (26997)12/1/1997 2:33:00 AM
From: Graystone  Respond to of 35569
 
The Wealth of Nations
or
Changing D'oyle in your Pickup

Duh is a conventional fact based post. The purpose of Duh is really quite simple. It sends the point in deeply, the management at IPMCF are not doing anything responsibly. They have not been taken to task for thier offenses yet, but time will tell. Once you have an established fact, the irresponsibility of IPMCF management, buttress this fact with any other pertinent information you desire. At this point it really helps to have a good imagination, it is probably the single most valuable resource available. The clear objective is to relate interconnected facts to form a picture of a whole. The thread now becomes a valuable resource for aiding in your speculations. Holding fast to your fact, the irresponsibility of IPMCF, venture all the wild theories you wish about what was said by who, try to determine what could possibly be going on here, heheheh or join in the fun.

Buying Time

In light of the liquidity crisis in the Tigers, IPMCF management decided to delay announcement of the fact that Arizona itself was actually gold, with a generous dollop of platinum. Using a resource calculation supplied by Captain Jean Luc Picard, engineering genius "Alas poor Yorrick" determined that Arizona was currently worth more than Japan. The rumour quickly reached Thailand where a disgruntled Michael De Guzman begin selling shares in Yamahaichi Securities. A domino effect is feared with KWG Resources being the next target of a takeover attempt by the Vatican. Italian insiders say that Franco Zefferelli has the best chance of succeeding Oily Doyle as the next Prime Minister of Alaska. The trailer was last seen in Roswell with a group of Venezuelans posing as sophisticated Greek shipowners, they were apprehended with 3.2 kilograms of gold, more is expected to follow. A generous selection of geological terms has been made available. If all goes well several million tonnes of gold should be available tommorrow at the flea market in Phoenix. This has raised the specter of a crushing drop in world gold prices and catastrophic increases in interest rates. The bomber was last seen offshore in the Bermuda Triangle.

For Sale : 10,000 yards of slightly used carpet, needs to be cleaned but can provide special extraction unit, trailer mounted for US $27,000,000.00, must be paid in US funds, yen OK.

Distraction is the last thing you need at this point, don't you think. When you can clearly see the house is burning, is it time to stop and smell the roses ?

Now turn around and look at the fire. Do you see the flames, good. Now take a real close look and see who is trying to put out the fire and what is being used to do it. If any thing about the IPMCF situation is clear it is the interconnection of fact. The public documents speak for themselves, the conversation has covered the obvious, the fire continues to chew away at the possibilities left in this situation. Turning over the burnt bits won't bring back the flowers and it really is the clear light of day. If you can't see at this point you have been HAD, then it may become clear as the situation deteriorates.

Threads tend to unravel fairly quickly once it starts. Is there a point in staying on this thread for awhile ? I think so.

To: Larry Brubaker (25715 ) Wednesday, Nov 12 1997 10:08PM EST
From: Graystone
The people in the burning house are desperate, the firefighters are desperate, those of us watching the fire just wonder when the coals will be right for marshmallows.