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To: longnshort who wrote (433453)	6/28/2011 1:13:16 PM
From: Tom Clarke	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 794015

who cares - pledge was written by a 19th century socialist, trying to unite the north and south after the secessionist war failed.

To: longnshort who wrote (433453)	6/28/2011 2:30:24 PM
From: Alan Smithee	4 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 794015

Oregon Town Rejects Proposal to Say Pledge Before Meetings Typical for Eugene. The city is home to many anarchists and extreme leftists. From Wiki: "Anarchy During the late 1990s and early first decade of the 21st century Eugene contained a community of anarchists situated in the Whiteaker neighborhood of west Eugene. This community gained international notoriety in 1999, due to its perceived role in the protests at the WTO Conference in Seattle that year.[35] Following those protests, then-mayor Jim Torrey described the city as "the anarchist capital of the United States."[35] The Eugene anarchist movement grew out of the treesits and forest defense camps of the 1990s. Demonstrations and riots in Eugene have since occurred [36] notably during a Reclaim the Streets event on June 18, 1999, when protesters blocked downtown streets and smashed the windows of three stores. Some rioters threw stones and bottles at police.[37] One notable set of events in Eugene's anarchist community's history was the "mud people's" protest.[38] On that day, the participants noticed two blocks of trees, in a parking lot near the downtown area, were slated for removal the following Sunday. The ensuing tree sitting protest on June 1, 1997 was reported widely, as it lasted several hours before the crowd became violent[citation needed] and the police responded with pepper spray. A lawsuit by protesters against police response was settled five years later.[39] The ongoing trials of accused "eco-terrorists" continue to keep Eugene in the same spotlight.[40] Historically, Eugene has fostered theanarcho-primitivist movement. John Zerzan, a Eugene resident, is a editor of the Green Anarchy magazine. This author has been associated with the growth of the green anarchist movement and associated with the philosophy behind black bloc tactics that were later found in the Seattle riots; links which he himself denies.[41][42]" en.wikipedia.org

To: longnshort who wrote (433453)	6/28/2011 8:25:54 PM
From: Tom Clarke	4 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 794015

The Bellamy salute is the salute described by Francis Bellamy (1855–1931) to accompany the American Pledge of Allegiance, which he had authored. During the period when it was used with the Pledge of Allegiance, it was sometimes known as the "flag salute". During the 1920s and 1930s, Italian fascists and Nazis adopted salutes which were similar in form, resulting in controversy over the use of the Bellamy salute in the United States. It was officially replaced by the hand-over-heart salute when Congress officially amended the Flag Code on 22 December 1942. en.wikipedia.org