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Pastimes : The Philosopher's Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (58)	6/30/2011 2:37:01 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71

<<I would answer the same as they answer me.. If a extra-dimensional entity created this three dimensional universe, it doesn't matter who created the entity.>> Why? I don't understand that logic. Here is the essence of what I have come to believe over the last 70 years of my life. 1) The totality of the universe is reflective of infinity, which menas we are one of an infinite number of universes. 2) Cognition is a third system in bouth our universe and throughout infinity. E.g. inorganic, organic and cognitive systems. 3) Gods would not be gods. Gods make no sense except to very uneducated people. Gods would be self actualized, more than we and have no interest in being gods. They would not want anyone praying to them. That is a human desire, tribal chiefs desire, not the characteristic of an entity that is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent. E.g. would any god really want some very uneducated person in any country to pray to it? Why? It would mean nothing to that entity as they would have no understandign of what/whom they were praying to; plus that god/sentient being would know that person could not begin to understand them. Last, in science they have a term called "Knowledge Directed Perception". What that means is a person cannot see what they cannot understand. There is no reason to be a god or have a god. Sentient beings would understand that without proper knowledge no one can even begin to understand the world they live in. What makes folks like Plato and Einstein the types of folks senteint beings might have interest in, is that they understood to some degree how large and complex infinity is and how ignorant they were. That is the brass ring. Understanding ones ignnorance and I believe the only thing gods or sentient beings might respond to. Someone who understands how hard it is to understand infinity and things like a quantum universe.