To: i-node who wrote (618081 ) 7/4/2011 12:58:35 PM From: tejek Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1583507 Not improving cafe standards was the decision of mgmt, not the unions. Yes, and it isn't clear at all that THAT had anything to do with the problem, although if you listen to the liberal media I can see how one could draw that conclusion. You should learn to listen to the liberal media......they usually get it right.....not always but most of the time. Why? Because they rely on facts.Not having a well rounded market offering.....SUVs AND gas efficient cars was a decision made by mgmt, not the unions. Same as above. Management made what was a clearly a horrible decision with the Volt. Who are you blaming THAT on? Pray tell, o wise one, why is the Volt a horrible decision? Now please try real hard to stick to the facts and not your ideological bent.Poor car design and quality is the responsibility of mgmt, not the unions. Design is a management issue, but where is the evidence of a design problem? The best selling GM vehicles were Cadillacs, which they made the most money on (or lost the least). Uh........forget the Cadillac, the major reasons touted for Detroit's loss of market share over the years were poor car quality and poor design. And frankly, car quality has improved but design still leaves a lot be desired. We see glimmers in the new Volt and Cadillacs and the mini Fiat Chrysler but for the most part, Detroit's designs continue to be....meh. That's especially true of Ford these days.The quality issues were a result of unions dictating to management what the workplace would look like. Really. Painting the factory walls pink hurt car quality. Who knew?> In fact, capitulating to union demands was the fault of mgmt, not the unions. It is hard to blame management when the UAW is holding a gun to their heads. So consistently losing market share and struggling with profitability were not big guns for mgmt in their negotiations with the UAW. BS. The truth is mgmt was weak and inept and so long as they could make the green stuff, they didn't care. > Interesting and positive metrics..... Right. That prove Arkansas is in fact a relatively "wealthy" state. It just makes better choices. >> and yet, Arkansas is at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to per capita income and educational attainment: Education is a function of the demographic, not of the amount of money spent. We are a small, rural state, yet rank [by most rankings] somewhere in the middle overall -- often ahead of states like CA and OR. So, I don't think that's too bad under the circumstances. Thanks for answering my question in more ways than one. I suggest you reread your answer.......it provides significant insight into the problem.As to your remark on "per-capita" income, I just don't know how that is a meaningful metric at all. I can have a better standard of living where I live on HALF the money you can in Seattle. And LESS THAN HALF what I could in NYC or LA. Per-capita income is about as close as you can get to meaningless as a measure of a state's "wealth". You really have to take into account that a small house in CA cost 3-4x what the same house would cost in Central Arkansas. Yup. I foget that quality of life has different meanings in different places.