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To: E_K_S who wrote (43158)7/3/2011 1:15:19 PM
From: Spekulatius  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 78732
 
The problem with the Magic formula screen is that it only looks at backward data by design. The underlying assumption is that companies that have shown a good cash yield in the past, have a strong business and the stock will come back (to get into the screen they have to get cheap first).

Now you need to ask yourself, why a stock went down to begin with - in most cases there will be good reasons. The market pays for future earnings, not the past ones. Speaking of the Magicformula screen - anybody looked at PWER? Volatile business but the stock sure looks cheap.



To: E_K_S who wrote (43158)7/3/2011 2:05:37 PM
From: Jurgis Bekepuris  Respond to of 78732
 
OSK - what's not to see? Current ROE ~20, ROIC ~15, earnings / EV somewhere at 9%, P/S 0.4. And I am looking at 2011 H1 results and not 2010 that were much higher (one time?).

Sure, results are lumpy, ~70% of sales is military and ~90% US, so there is a risk of big military/govt purchase drop, but I assume Icahn may be looking longer term.



To: E_K_S who wrote (43158)7/4/2011 1:12:11 PM
From: Jurgis Bekepuris  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78732
 
OSK presentation: dl.dropbox.com