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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (96036)7/5/2011 12:45:17 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 149317
 
If you choose not to pay your taxes they take your house. If you choose not to buy from XYZ company because you don't like the executive compensation, you can.

Oh BS. How many people have the time to find out what a corp's ceo is getting for a bonus? Seriously. We have become slaves to the corp. will. All the consumer can do is try to get the best price and in the case of a product like gas, conserve their consumption when prices go through the roof.

Its not the gov't you need to fear; its the almighty corporation.



To: Jim McMannis who wrote (96036)7/5/2011 12:55:45 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Respond to of 149317
 
"If you choose not to pay your taxes they take your house."

Well, they can't take just your police and fire and ambulance protection and roads and street lights and and and. Move out to the middle of nowhere and build what you want. Just stay out of the public domain. Or pay your taxes, unless you want to see the government turn your house into a homeless shelter. Since you won't have a house, you will be eligible for vouchers for one room for your family, with kitchen and bathroom privledges. Good news is you will again be able to live in the world of the public domain, with fire and police and and and.



To: Jim McMannis who wrote (96036)7/5/2011 1:33:05 PM
From: Road Walker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
The difference is the taxpayers are on the hook for the public sector. Private sector is market driven....

You don't think the private and public sectors compete for qualified people? Unless you want completely unqualified people running (ruining) your city then you have to pay a decent wage. And yes even in the public sector it's a free market, if you want the best city manager of school superintendent or transportation manager you have to pay top dollar or they'll go to Chicago or Hammond or somewhere.

It seems like you don't think any public employee should make more than you? These are highly qualified and experienced people with very important jobs. They are not volunteers... they are professionals like you and me and expect to be compensated. Like everything else you get what you pay for.



To: Jim McMannis who wrote (96036)7/5/2011 2:25:07 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 149317
 
Paul Ryan’s peek behind the curtain

We haven’t heard too much lately from House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.). Since becoming one of the nation’s least popular politicians, he seems to be keeping a slightly lower profile.

He hasn’t disappeared entirely, however. This morning, the right-wing Wisconsinite chatted with Laura Ingraham about David Brooks’ provocative new NYT column.

To briefly recap, Brooks argued that today’s Republican Party “has separated itself from normal governance” and may no longer be “fit to govern.” To prove the point, the conservative columnist pointed to the GOP’s opposition to a debt-reduction deal that includes massive spending cuts and scrapping unnecessary (and unpopular) tax subsidies.

Ryan pushed back, arguing that Republicans can’t follow Brooks’ advice.

“What happens if you do what he’s saying, is then you can’t lower tax rates. So it does affect marginal tax rates. In order to lower marginal tax rates, you have to take away those loopholes so you can lower those tax rates. If you want to do what we call being revenue neutral … If you take a deal like that, you’re necessarily requiring tax rates to be higher for everybody. You need lower tax rates by going after tax loopholes. If you take away the tax loopholes without lowering tax rates, then you deny Congress the ability to lower everybody’s tax rates and you keep people’s tax rates high.”

Let’s take a moment to translate this. Ryan realizes that if policymakers ended these tax subsidies, it would help lower the deficit, and make it less necessary to make other cuts that would hurt working families.

But debt-reduction isn’t Ryan’s principal goal; cutting tax rates is. When the Republican House Budget Committee chairman argues that we’re facing some sort of debt crisis, it’s really just a shell game — Ryan wants tax cuts. Period. Full stop.


Sure, policymakers could scrap needless tax expenditures, but Ryan prefers to use those savings to pay for more tax cuts, not to pay for debt reduction.

And why is that? Because the lowest American tax burden in more than a half-century is, in Paul Ryan’s mind, too “high.”

Let this be the latest in a series of reminders: Republicans don’t really care about reducing the deficit or the debt. Their goal is to reduce government for ideological reasons, and they use the fiscal shortfall that they created as a thin pretense to pursue this agenda.