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To: stock bull who wrote (52367)7/6/2011 9:07:22 PM
From: steve harris8 Recommendations  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 103300
 
we're not going to default on our bonds, it's another scare tactic in the same line that brought us TARP and stimulus 1 and 2

the funneling of taxpayers' money overseas to foreign entities that the Fed or Geitner is cozy with must stop

we're in trouble because the govt is spending money they don't have, spending more money we don't have will not fix anything

the politicians and their supporters have stolen us blind, I'll be damned if I'm going to let them have anymore

did you get a check reimbursing you for bad investments you made? They did....trillions.....



To: stock bull who wrote (52367)7/6/2011 9:54:17 PM
From: John2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 103300
 
If the United States defaults on its sovereign debt and obligations to bond holders, several things will happen.

First, bond prices will plummet and the interest rates on maturities and new issues will soar in a feeble effort to attract new investors and keep the fiat ponzi scheme going. Cash will become increasingly hard to come by. The immediate ancillary effect of this will be that many businesses will close and unemployment will soar.

Second, equity markets will crash and the value of the dollar will plunge.

Third, inflation will soar.

These three primary factors will result in a dramatic and significant decline in the U.S. economy, which is precisely what needs to happen. Why? Because the U.S. economy is artificially propped up by a fiat monetary policy and the outright fascist policies of the United States government, its central bank (Federal Reserve), and the investment banks/insurance houses.

The fact of the matter is that the United States is approaching the three-year mark in a dark and bleak era of post-capitalism. It must end and capitalism must be restored. A sovereign debt default would precipitate the painful beginning of that. There is no painless way for it to happen.

I don't care if gas is reaches 50 dollars/gallon, there is widespread anarchy on the streets, and Wal-Mart shuts down. Whatever it takes to return the United States to freedom and capitalism after the coming turmoil is dealt with and those responsible are held accountable and punished.

Of course, I harbor no belief that a default will actually transpire. Congress will raise the debt ceiling as their central bank masters direct them to. -ng-



To: stock bull who wrote (52367)7/6/2011 11:28:00 PM
From: Wayners  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 103300
 
Just look at 1971 when we defaulted on Gold conversion to foreigners. Interest rates went up to nearly 20% over the next 12 years until they peaked around 1982.