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Pastimes : Plastics to Oil - Pyrolysis and Secret Catalysts and Alterna -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: jimmenknee who wrote (8728)	7/7/2011 8:00:10 PM
From: donpat	Respond to of 53574

"Patents" sell saps! The poor saps think that anything involving PATENTS has got to be good! 3 out of 100 patents issued actually end up in something in industry or on the marketplace. Patents ARE important!! Any of those 3 can make a BIG difference. The other 97 make sap bait.

To: jimmenknee who wrote (8728)	7/7/2011 8:06:28 PM
From: SteveF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 53574

2 years ago yesterday: stockhideout.com That's a must-read thread. We're told over and over that none of the early investors (Expedite2, tape business, etc) knew anything about the P2O business plans when they invested, but Zardiw's message from the CEO on July 6, 2009 sure sounds like P2O has been in the works for a long time. Expedite2's S-1 was filed April 6, 2009. Not a word about P2O. JB buys controlling interest of the TRTN shell on April 24, 2009. Not a word about P2O. P2O is first introduced in the May 20, 2009, TRTN 10Q: Plan of Operations 310 Holdings, Inc. was incorporated in the State of Nevada on April 20, 2006. We are a startup company and have not yet realized any significant, consistent revenues. Our efforts, to date, have focused primarily on the development and implementation of our business plan. Management has started to commence operations with Plastic2Oil, a process and service that extracts fuel from plastic. ... "Management is transitioning our company to become a global technology leader whose purpose is to mine data from Bordynuik’s large information archive, find under-productive entities to inject our superior proprietary technologies into, and benefit from increased productivity and profitability, beginning with Plastic2Oil." ... "While mining through the research archive, John Bordynuik found the solution, catalyst and process to a break down plastics to liquid hydrocarbons. Mr. Bordynuik had explored Plastic to Oil conversion when employed at the Ontario, Canada legislature but there was no research available at that time to make the conversion commercially viable. This recently mined research was conducted when plastic was not as widespread as today and oil prices were very low. It appears to our management that the research was conducted for non-commercial purposes and it had no commercial value at the time. Our research has revealed that this process and catalyst is not presently commercialized. By integrating this technology into a large batch processor we believe, but cannot guarantee, that we can accomplish the following: · Approximately one liter of fuel is extracted for every pound of plastic. · Some fuel byproduct provides the energy necessary to fuel the process thereby eliminating energy costs. · Due to our catalyst and a highly optimized process, fuel can be extracted in four hours from a large source of raw unwashed, mixed plastics. · The process will be highly automated. · Raw materials cost approximately $0.10/lbs which produce approximately one liter of fuel. · There is no residue. Our management believes that this technology has significant advantages over biodiesel operations due to their high operating costs, the high costs of raw materials, and the high energy requirements by their processes. Alan Barnett, our Head Chemist, will oversee the optimization and deployment of our first volume Plastic2Oil processor anticipated in July, 2009." sec.gov

To: jimmenknee who wrote (8728)	7/7/2011 8:52:08 PM
From: $$$Stox_Trader$$$	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 53574

After what I have read here I'd say that turning plastic into oil is not even possibile! This is all a big fantasy isn't it? If there is such a machine, does it just melt the plastic into a sludge that isn't worth anything and cant be used in a car? What about the supposed sales to this Oxyvianl company and Coco paving? Are these two companys involved in this scam with JBII or did JBII just put out a fake press release? Not saying this is what has happened but you guys now have me wondering. I appreciate all this great information you guys are telling me! WOW!