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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (107458)7/10/2011 9:29:07 PM
From: TimF2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224755
 
10,000 boomers reaching SS age everyday. Don't try to tell them their promised benefits, for which they paid dearly, won't be paid.

That's irrelevant to all the points we raised in the conversation. We were not talking about whether they will get paid or not, we where talking about how they would get paid. There is no asset that can be used to pay them, other than the power of the federal government to tax people in the future.

Changing topics to your new one, they will get paid, but not as much as they are projected to get paid now. Spending on Social Security will keep going up, spending per person will almost certainly keep going up as well, it just won't rise as fast as projected.

As for "raise the revenue", it doesn't work. We can't raise enough revenue. We could for just Social Security, but not for all the entitlements together. The percentage of GDP that the programs will spend if unchanged is higher than the what the federal government has ever been able to sustain, whether top personal income tax rates where 28% or 95% or anything in between. We can increase revenue a bit, but not nearly enough, and even that bit is harmful.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (107458)7/10/2011 9:43:49 PM
From: Wayners  Respond to of 224755
 
Um, they won't be paid. Get used to it.