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Politics : President Barack Obama -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Neil H who wrote (96736)	7/12/2011 4:17:53 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

Did you pay for the Iraq invasion, which I assume you supported?

To: Neil H who wrote (96736)	7/12/2011 4:29:16 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 149317

In a day when the rich are getting richer at the expense of the less fortunate None of my wealth comes at the expense of anyone. The pie is not infinite. Study after study shows that as the rich get richer the poor get poorer.....even in good times. And when a recession hits the rich get even richer because they have the resources to capitalize. This kind of disparity leads to revolutions. Is that what you want? And given the current tax rates for the rich, you're paying the equivalent of a child's allowance. You must have been quite generous to your children with their allowance if you gave them what I will pay in taxes this year. I pay a lot of taxes. You want fair. Lets go to a flat tax with little or no deductions. Then those tax loopholes and hiding places wont be there and everyone will pay their fair share. Its all relative dude. Your tax load is fairly light as these things go. You all are not paying your fair share.........that's why during the past ten years, the nation has been short revenues and the deficit has grown dramatically. No Ted - We are short on revenues and the deficit has grown because we have a govt that has gotten us into wars, given entitlements beyond what we can afford, and played fast and footloose with our pocketbooks while governing to benefit themselves and their party/supporters. And yes I do not care to pony up more money to pay for mismanagement. I much prefer to spend the additional money to help others by donating to charities of my choice. Not for govt redistribution programs. Part of your answer is true. However, there is another part. Revenue growth diminished greatly under Bush which also helped to grow the deficit. If I can accept your part of the argument, then you can do the same for me. Your caucus is falling part. Your leadership is in disarray. You all better start acting like Americans rather than the Saudi princes after whom you currently are modeling yourselves. Learn to compromise.........its the only way we're to go forward intelligently.

To: Neil H who wrote (96736)	7/12/2011 6:16:01 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 149317

I don't know if you remember the Uprising in LA back in 1992. In the rest of the country it was known as the LA riots but in LA is was known as the Uprising. When things got out of control, at first the people started burning buildings in S. Central LA.but very quickly they moved out of S. Central. They went after Hollywood, Beverly Hills, and other more affluent neighborhoods. Because BH cops were completely unprepared for the deluge, LA cops were sent to BH to defend it from the people storming its gates. With riots,one burns down his own place; with uprisingss one goes after the rich who are seen as the oppressors. The national guard had to be called in and LA was under martial law for two weeks. What people don't realize is that LA is one of the more segregated big cities in the country and the income ratio between poor and rich is way out of whack. The rich are very rich and the poor are very poor. For decades, the illegal population provided cheap labor for the upper classes in so many different ways it would take forever to put them all down. And as we all know most trends start in LA. Since I left LA in 1998, much to my surprise, the illegal population has disbursed throughout the country; enabling other rich people to get even richer. What I suspect now is that the dichotomies that existed in LA during the early '90s now exist to some extent in the rest of the country. There is a belief to the American meme that we are above revolutions. I suggest that that is not only wrong given our history of violence but its a bit foolhardy to think that way esp. after three years of one of the worst recessions to hit this country since the Depression. After all, we experienced uprisings during the Depression. And trust, its not the teapers who will start the revolution. Frankly, most of them are too old. If Rs are smart, they will get on their cells and tell their leaders in DC to start talking compromise.........before its too late.