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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (108341)7/22/2011 9:12:53 AM
From: Sedohr Nod5 Recommendations  Respond to of 224748
 
When a socialist knows the financial numbers are unsustainable, then even you should be able to get a clue.

Wake up Ken.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (108341)7/22/2011 9:29:52 AM
From: TideGlider6 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224748
 
Obama isn't "trying" to cut anything. He is faced with the realistic results of his unrealistic policies and needs to agree to cuts for his very survival. You are way out in LaLa Land Kenneth. Take a realistic look at the world !

Would you be happier with the USA rioting ? Probably would until the parasites came to your neighborhood and took what they wanted.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (108341)7/22/2011 9:39:15 AM
From: Follies3 Recommendations  Respond to of 224748
 
Obama is trying to cut Medicare and SS.

All you know is what he is saying, not what he is doing. He may cut SS and Medicare 6 years from now. That doesnt count.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (108341)7/22/2011 9:46:04 AM
From: JakeStraw4 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224748
 
>>Obama is trying to cut Medicare and SS.

LOL! That's his political ploy...



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (108341)7/22/2011 10:50:30 AM
From: Ann Corrigan6 Recommendations  Respond to of 224748
 
Gee Ken, didn't realize that - how much are the cuts to each program?



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (108341)7/22/2011 10:53:01 AM
From: Ann Corrigan11 Recommendations  Respond to of 224748
 
Obama's approval ratings are so low that even the Kenyans are claiming he was born in Hawaii.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (108341)7/22/2011 11:53:25 AM
From: MJ4 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224748
 
Sounds like a Commie-------steal from the people. What next?



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (108341)7/22/2011 1:42:10 PM
From: TimF4 Recommendations  Respond to of 224748
 
<<He's a socialist...>> Not even close. Obama is trying to cut Medicare and SS. Does that sound like a socialist?

1 - He's trying to do no such thing. Few Republicans are trying to do so either. Generally both want the programs to expand. Obama waffles about whether they should expand as fast as previously planned or just slight slower. The Republicans fight among themselves about whether they should expand as fast, just slightly slower, or significantly slower, but all of them want the programs to expand (except a very small number of them with no real power over the decision).

2 - Even if he did plan to cut them, that doesn't indicate he isn't a socialist. Socialists and even full blown communists have cut social programs either for other priorities or when it turns out they where unaffordable.

None of which necessarily means I'd call Obama a socialist, or that I wouldn't. Socialist has become to be a rather nebulous term. By the broadest possible definitions Boehner and even Ryan would be socialists. After all they support many government creation of services and ownership of organizations that create services. By more narrow definitions almost no one with a position of power in the US federal government is a socialist. The one thing I can clearly say is that Obama is either more socialist, or closer to socialist, then the American people as a whole.