To: elmatador who wrote (76821 ) 7/25/2011 4:44:41 AM From: Maurice Winn 3 Recommendations Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 219884 ElM, you are doing the fungible thing again. Japan soared and remains soared though the financial mania of the 1980s took a very long time to resolve. Similarly, the USA wastrel spending will take a very long time to resolve. Japan has another major paradigm shift happening - population aging and decline, which is no bad thing because at some level of population, places do get too crowded and it's not for me to say how many children women should think they want to have. Japan is a bit like me, aging, resting on the oars having made enough wealth, no resources, just investments and enough helpers to produce the goods and services I want to buy. So of course their GDP isn't zooming. Young people with children are the highly energized. Old people with golf clubs don't have high GDP per capita but they are happy enough. If numbers mattered much, termites and ants would dominate Earth, not people. Though I admit that if picnicking in a park, ants can be problematic and my 4 months young grandson started wailing and an inspection showed an ant attempting to dine on his back. If numbers were a big deal economically, Ethiopia and Pakistan would be splendid places of wealth. There is more to wealth than numbers and "natural size". If numbers or resources mattered, Singapore, Hong Kong and Luxembourg would be impoverished. Nigeria and Venezuela would be wealthy. It's true that less intelligent can do the monkey see, monkey do thing. I learned how to solve problems with third order partial differential equations, but wouldn't have invented them. So yes, you are right that such wealth transfers very easily. But it's still the wealth creating inventive like Steve Jobs, Irwiin Jacobs and the like who are the guiding lights and get the money first. After they have done it, Made in China copies the Apple stores, ignoring little details like copyright, trademarks and patents. But copying and stealing are not the way to wealth. Once again, scroll to the bottom to see the foundation for wealth: lagriffedulion.f2s.com You can see what each country should expect. There are deviations from the expectations and if you know about the countries, you will be able to see why they deviate. There is no upper limit to wealth. There will always be a widening gap between the rich and poor and the poor should be very pleased that that happens because it means there are amazingly great things still to be achieved. When there isn't much more that highly intelligent civilized people can do than the dull and less civilized, then life will be far less interesting and feel like it's going nowhere. Mqurice