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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Land Shark who wrote (108943)	7/28/2011 12:56:31 PM
From: TimF	1 Recommendation Respond to of 224749

It was the children of the politicians that got shot. All of them? Even if that's the case (and I doubt it) they still were not agents of the government. Also again - Norway's government isn't my ideal but its not monstrous totalitarian government. by a right winger. How do you define "right winger"? He wasn't insane Depends on how you define insane. I suppose there is a good chance he's not legally insane, but insane has many meanings, some of which seem to fit him.

To: Land Shark who wrote (108943)	7/28/2011 1:05:17 PM
From: TimF	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224749

Since Y’all Probably Want to Spend the Day Arguing About to What Extent Right-Wing Bloggers Are Responsible for All Those Shootings in Oslo……here’s a New York Times article to start the ball rolling. The man accused of the killing spree in Norway was deeply influenced by a small group of American bloggers and writers who have warned for years about the threat from Islam, lacing his 1,500-page manifesto with quotations from them, as well as copying multiple passages from the tract of the Unabomber. I missed the part where those bloggers advocated shooting and killing dozens of people — I had this impression they were against mass murder — but I admit to being fuzzy on the details. UPDATE: Robert Spencer on being blamed for inspiring the murderer: If I was indeed an inspiration for his work, I feel the way the Beatles must have felt when they learned that Charles Manson had committed murder after being inspired by messages he thought he heard in their song lyrics. There were no such messages. Nor is there, for any sane person, any inspiration for harming anyone in my work, which has been consistently dedicated to defending human rights for all people. patterico.com

To: Land Shark who wrote (108943)	7/28/2011 1:23:17 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie	4 Recommendations Respond to of 224749

This was a planned political attack against the labour party by a right winger. Beyond the media saying he is a right winger, what evidence do you have that he is a "right winger"? Is there anything in his manifesto that indicates that he is a right winger? Is being anti-islamist enough to call him a right winger? Is being "culturally christian" enough to call him a right winger?