To: Alighieri who wrote (622371 ) 8/1/2011 1:16:49 PM From: i-node Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1579125 What you said was: "the last trustee report said that Part D had created 75 year expenditure of $9.9T..." Nobody is talking about "expenditures". That is NOT what an unfunded liability is. That you made this remark clearly reflects a total misunderstanding of what the obligations under these plans are and what they mean. My reference to the larger figure was admittedly taken from an earlier estimate. But I do understand the meaning of the term. And you quite obviously do not. Perhaps if you did, you would comprehend the scope of the crisis. I suggest you get up to speed. >> yet it passes another social program without any attempt to fund it and then comes back a couple of years later proposing a budget that essentially eliminates medicare...i guess for republicans the only good social program is the one passed by republicans. The critical Senate vote that allowed passage of Part D was 76-21. Bipartisan. And the Democrats who ultimately voted against the bill did so, not because of its funding, but because they opposed a key element of the legislation that made it so fiscally successful -- the "doughnut hole" -- which liberals have now removed, destroying its fiscal sanity in the process. And, of course, STILL leaving it unfunded. I did not support Part D at the time, and while it is irrefutable proof that competition amongst private organizations is preferable to government run operations, we still couldn't afford it. Unlike you, I don't have any compelling need to support or oppose legislation because of any party affiliation. My "vigorous defense" of Part D has been solely based on the fact that it is the ONLY federal health care plan to come in consistently under budget. However, like all such programs, it ultimately was destroyed by liberals. ..actually you've proven this point frequently here with your vigorous defenses of medicare part D.