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To: Alighieri who wrote (622515)	8/2/2011 9:49:58 AM
From: i-node	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1579924

>> so our competitors hone up while we "cut pell grants" and republicans want to kill the dept of education... Right. After all, these expenditures have been SO successful in motivating American students. We spend nearly 100b/year at Education; a trillion dollars or more during the course of a kid's education. And WTF do we get for it? It isn't about the money, fool. If money were the issue, we wouldn't have a problem.

To: Alighieri who wrote (622515)	8/2/2011 10:25:14 AM
From: longnshort	3 Recommendations Respond to of 1579924

"and republicans want to kill the dept of education... " what does the Dept of Ed. really do ? How does it help prepare students ?

To: Alighieri who wrote (622515)	8/2/2011 12:43:28 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1579924

Al, > My son is in a PHD program at UT (Knoxville) and he says that a large share of his co-candidates are foreign, with Chinese making up a large majority...now I suspect that they send their best here, but he also tells me that these kids are really well prepared... This is the first time you heard of this in academia? > so our competitors hone up while we "cut pell grants" and republicans want to kill the dept of education... Schools in Asia typically aren't run like day care centers. They impose pretty high standards on student conduct. Most grade school kids will spend hours after school in libraries studying their asses off for standardized entrance exams. Although once Asian students get into college, they slack off. Gotta make up for the years of "study study study." Tenchusatsu

To: Alighieri who wrote (622515)	8/2/2011 1:03:13 PM
From: d[-_-]b	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1579924

he says that a large share of his co-candidates are foreign Sounds like Americans should be made a protected class and given more seats than foreign/illegal students. Why does Illinois sign law to allow illegals tutition and admission at resident rates. They've been sowing the seeds of our demise for decades: Senate OKs in-state tuition for Illinois' illegal immigrants May 08, 2003\|By Rick Jervis, Tribune staff reporter. Illinois is poised to join four other states that extend in-state tuition benefits to illegal immigrants attending state colleges and universities. With a 56-1 vote, the Illinois Senate on Wednesday passed legislation that allows undocumented students access to the cheaper tuition. The House already has approved the measure and Gov. Rod Blagojevich has indicated he will sign it. Illinois governor signs college scholarship bill By DEANNA BELLANDI CHICAGO Illinois made it easier for illegal immigrants to pay for college when Gov. Pat Quinn signed a law Monday creating a privately funded college scholarship program. "We say to all the people of our country and our state, we want everybody in and nobody left out," Quinn, a Democrat, told a packed auditorium at a high school in a Latino neighborhood of Chicago. "Education is the key to opportunity in a democracy."

To: Alighieri who wrote (622515)	8/2/2011 1:54:01 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1579924

It seems teapers are never happy. Despite Pulling Debt Ceiling Debate Rightward, Tea Party Activists Slam House-Passed Deal WASHINGTON – Republican Lindsey Graham's position on the debt ceiling deal Monday made one thing very plain: the senior senator from South Carolina is scared to death of the Tea Party. Graham, a 56-year-old second-termer, rejected the deal early in the day, arguing that it "adds over $7 trillion in new debt over the next decade and only makes small reductions in future spending." "We hardly address the future growth of entitlements, a major contributor of future budgetary problems," said Graham, who is not up for reelection until 2014 but is already talked of as a major target for a primary challenge. With a tweak here or there, Graham's statement could have come from the mouth of his state's junior senator, conservative firebrand Jim DeMint. Reports surfaced Monday that DeMint is so angered by the debt ceiling deal that he is considering supporting primary challengers to fellow GOP senators who vote in its favor on Tuesday. The move by Graham -- a pragmatic politician who nobody would have accused in past years of being an intransigent ideologue -- was an example of the way the Tea Party wielded influence in the debt ceiling debate. It was not a case of power brokers flexing muscles in backroom meetings. It was, rather, the application of grassroots pressure being channeled through lawmakers such as DeMint, but also through long-established conservative advocacy organizations in Washington. "The influence was more from pressure from the outside, rather than in-the-room pressure and influence," said a senior House Republican aide. But, the aide added, "the Tea Party had some of their most powerful influence working with or through Beltway-type organizations like FreedomWorks, Americans for Prosperity, and Let Freedom Ring … Even the Tea Party needs some 'establishment' help to get things done." However, Graham's position did not prevail in the House, where the most significant obstacles to the deal's passage were overcome when 95 Democrats joined with 174 Republicans to approve the $2.4 trillion increase in the debt ceiling, in exchange for at least $2.1 trillion in spending cuts over 10 years. The result left national and local leaders in the Tea Party fuming. "It's kind of frustrating after all these battles starting with TARP and stimulus, the continued willingness of the political class to jam things through at the final hour," said Matt Kibbe, president and CEO of FreedomWorks, in an interview. read more............... huffingtonpost.com

To: Alighieri who wrote (622515)	8/2/2011 1:58:12 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1579924

China, India and South Korea have led the world in sending students to U.S. universities, which according to the two best-known world university rankings — Britain’s Times Higher Education Supplement and China’s Shanghai Jiai Tong University index — remain the best in the world. My son is in a PHD program at UT (Knoxville) and he says that a large share of his co-candidates are foreign, with Chinese making up a large majority...now I suspect that they send their best here, but he also tells me that these kids are really well prepared...so our competitors hone up while we "cut pell grants" and republicans want to kill the dept of education... Our educational system pre university level is deteriorating rapidly. Fortunately, American universities are still considered some of the best but what good does it do us if its mostly foreign students who take advantage of those schools. In the past 40 years, the drop off of American boys attending a 4 year college is nothing short of disturbing. Are we to have a country of educated women and uneducated men?