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To: tejek who wrote (623183)8/6/2011 2:42:09 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1579125
 
Obama offered $4 trillion in cuts.....most from spending cuts

No, he said he did, but what he offered was to reduce the increase by $4 trillion. Even that's rather questionable (its easy to offer and such offers usually don't become reality even if they are accepted), but for the sake of argument I'll take him at his word and assume it was totally honest, totally real, and actually would have happened if it was agreed to.

OK, assume all of that, and spending still goes up, you still get an increase not a cut.

When any Democrat with real power (the president, the Senate majority leader, a large block of Dems in congress, support actually reducing the top line spent each year let me know. (Hell when the Republican leadership does this let me know, it would be a pleasant surprise from even them let alone from the Democrats.)

And let me remind you that the only time in the last 30 years, the US has had budget surpluses was under a Dem president.

Which didn't materialize until you had a Republican congress, and the Democratic president fought hard for more spending, if he didn't the surpluses would have been larger, and the later deficits smaller.



To: tejek who wrote (623183)8/6/2011 2:47:00 PM
From: longnshort3 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1579125
 
"And let me remind you that the only time in the last 30 years, the US has had budget surpluses was under a Dem president."

it was under a republican congress which controls the purse strings. And that's a fact.

except there was no surplus



To: tejek who wrote (623183)8/6/2011 3:48:26 PM
From: i-node2 Recommendations  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 1579125
 
>> Obama offered $4 trillion in cuts.....most from spending cuts; some from revenue raises

He reneged on his agreement, which was stupid, and something you never do in negotiations. If you don't agree, don't agree. But don't destroy your credibility by making a deal then backing out of it.