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To: cirrus who wrote (99179)8/8/2011 10:29:39 AM
From: tejek  Respond to of 149317
 
don't see that. The rich don't want a depression or the markets to crash. Like everyone else they want stability. The problem is that there's a handful of teapers who exert influence far beyond their numbers because moderates on both left and right can't get their acts together.

Cirrus, they want their cake and eat it too. For over 3 decades, they have had stability while their share of the nation's assets and wealth has grown significantly. If they could keep doing it that way, they would. You assume that the majority of the rich are like Buffet and have some modicum of brains and a sense of decency.........in reality, some of them are like Paris Hilton, just not as showy, and the rest are like the Koch bros. And if you don't know who the Koch bros are.....I suggest you check them out on wiki.

Under the guise of trickle down, supply side or whatever other voodoo economics they have concocted,
they have been stealing the US Treasury blind. As a consequence, income disparities between the rich and the poor have grown significantly in this country. At a certain point, we will have uprisings like I witnessed in LA in 1992 and like London is having now.



To: cirrus who wrote (99179)8/8/2011 1:16:34 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 149317
 
More Stimulus for US, Less Austerity

http://www.smh.com.au/business/more-stimulus-for-us-less-austerity-20110808-1ij6d.html

By Joseph E. Stiglitz

Published on Monday, August 8, 2011 by the Sydney Morning Herald

The Great Recession of 2008 has morphed into the North Atlantic Recession: it is mainly Europe and the US, not the major emerging markets, that have become mired in slow growth and high unemployment. And it is Europe and America that are marching, alone and together, to the denouement of a grand debacle. A busted bubble led to a massive Keynesian stimulus that averted a much deeper recession, but that also fuelled substantial budget deficits. The response - massive spending cuts - ensures that unacceptably high levels of unemployment will continue, possibly for years.

The European Union has finally committed itself to helping its financially distressed members. It had no choice: with financial turmoil threatening to spread from small countries like Greece and Ireland to large ones like Italy and Spain, the euro's very survival was in growing jeopardy. Europe's leaders recognised that distressed countries' debts would become unmanageable unless their economies could grow, and that growth could not be achieved without help.

But, even as Europe's leaders promised that help was on the way, they doubled down on the belief that non-crisis countries must cut spending. The resulting austerity will hinder Europe's growth, and thus that of its most distressed economies: after all, nothing would help Greece more than robust growth in its trading partners. And low growth will hurt tax revenues, undermining the proclaimed goal of fiscal consolidation.

The discussions before the crisis illustrated how little had been done to repair economic fundamentals. The European Central Bank's vehement opposition to what is essential to all capitalist economies - the restructuring of failed or insolvent entities' debt - is evidence of the continuing fragility of the Western banking system.

The ECB argued that taxpayers should pick up the entire tab for Greece's bad sovereign debt, for fear that any private-sector involvement would trigger a "credit event", which would force large payouts on credit-default swaps (CDSs), possibly fuelling further financial turmoil. But, if that is a real fear for the ECB - if it is not merely acting on behalf of private lenders - surely it should have demanded that the banks have more capital.

The ECB should have barred banks from the risky CDS market, where they are held hostage to ratings agencies' decisions about what constitutes a "credit event". Indeed, one positive achievement by European leaders at the recent Brussels summit was to begin the process of reining in both the ECB and the power of the American ratings agencies.

Indeed, the most curious aspect of the ECB's position was its threat not to accept restructured government bonds as collateral if the ratings agencies decided that the restructuring should be classified as a credit event. The whole point of restructuring was to discharge debt and make the remainder more manageable. If the bonds were acceptable as collateral before the restructuring, surely they were safer after the restructuring, and thus equally acceptable.

This episode serves as a reminder that central banks are political institutions, with a political agenda, and that independent central banks tend to be captured (at least "cognitively") by the banks that they are supposed to regulate. And matters are little better on the other side of the Atlantic. There, the extreme right threatened to shut down the US government, confirming what game theory suggests: when those who are irrationally committed to destruction if they don't get their way confront rational individuals, the former prevail.

As a result, President Barack Obama acquiesced in an unbalanced debt-reduction strategy, with no tax increases - not even for the millionaires who have done so well during the past two decades and not even by eliminating tax giveaways to oil companies, which undermine economic efficiency and contribute to environmental degradation.

Optimists argue that the short run macroeconomic effect of the deal to raise America's debt ceiling and prevent sovereign default will be limited - roughly $US25 billion ($A24 billion) in expenditure cuts in the coming year. But the payroll tax cut (which put more than $US100 billion into the pockets of ordinary Americans) was not renewed and surely business, anticipating the contractionary effects down the line, will be even more reluctant to lend.

The end of the stimulus itself is contractionary. And, with housing prices continuing to fall, GDP growth faltering, and unemployment remaining stubbornly high (one in six Americans who would like a full-time job still cannot get one), more stimulus, not austerity, is needed - for the sake of balancing the budget as well. The single most important driver of deficit growth is weak tax revenues, owing to poor economic performance; the single best remedy would be to put America back to work. The recent debt deal is a move in the wrong direction.

There has been much concern about financial contagion between Europe and America. After all, America's financial mismanagement played an important role in triggering Europe's problems and financial turmoil in Europe would not be good for the US - especially given the fragility of the US banking system and the continuing role it plays in non-transparent CDSs.

But the real problem stems from another form of contagion: bad ideas move easily across borders, and misguided economic notions on both sides of the Atlantic have been reinforcing each other. The same will be true of the stagnation that those policies bring.
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*Joseph E. Stiglitz is University Professor at Columbia University. Among many books, he is the author of Globalization and Its Discontents. He received the Nobel Prize in Economics in 2001 for research on the economics of information. He is the co-author, with Linda Bilmes, of The Three Trillion Dollar War: The True Costs of the Iraq Conflict. His most recent book is Free Fall: America, Free Markets, and the Sinking of the World Economy.



To: cirrus who wrote (99179)8/8/2011 1:34:26 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 149317
 
Obama went wrong by jerking off the Republicans and not stopping the reckless and never ending wars....the wars are draining us big time (Nobel Prize winner Stiglitz says the total cost for the Iraq War will exceed $3 TRILLION U.S. tax dollars).....that's the single most important issue and expense to the US...second, the Bush tax cuts for the richest US citizens multiplied the debt problem big time -- it was irresponsible to continue them and this was never explained to all of our citizens in an easy to understand way...U.S. tax rates must return to the Clinton levels or we will make no serious headway dealing with the deficit and investing in mission critical infrastructure.