Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Paul V. who wrote (110181)	8/9/2011 2:25:09 AM
From: Jorj X Mckie	5 Recommendations Respond to of 224737

From what I see in the following you have no idea as to what you are suggesting and the what is at stake in the positions you are taking. If you had any idea of the consequences of what you are proposing you would run to your hole and pull in on top of your. You need to read, one of the articles by Saul, "Ends Justifies the Means," and many of the individuals your confrontation tactics would impact. Additionally, you need to understand the Machiavellianism approach of what your behavior would lead. jxm>I have a very good understanding of what I am talking about. And this isn't an "ends justify the means" approach. It is an approach based on a value system. A value system that says that being responsible for one's own life is superior to one where being a parasite is acceptable and encouraged. *Guess what, saner people will prevail. They are waking up and they are pissed off. And being pissed off doesn't make one insane.* Tomorrow we will see the outcome of the elections of recall in Wisconsin. jxm>I guess we will. I'm more interested in 2012. It is time to drive a stake through the heart of the progressive movement. And if Alinsky tactics are needed to do it, well, all is fair in love and war, eh? The progressives are risking their effort, time and at some times jail time for the hard working middle class Americans regarding wages and fringes, hours and conditions of employment. I really do not comprehend why you believe that the progressives are not for the hard working man/woman. Please clarify what you mean in, "threatening the livlihood of hard working Americans." jxm>Oh spare me the "progressives are saving the world" crap. Progressives are greedy power hungry criminals. They bulk of them belong in jail. They are using the hard working middle class as tools to manipulate themselves into more power and more money. Bernie Madoff is a progressive. Look at his campaign contribution record. And what I mean by threatening the livelihood of hard working americans, is the fiscal policies that are sending us into the economic abyss have serious ramifications for everyone but the poor and the very rich. And that isn't even looking at what the progressives are doing to industry through excessive regulations (this is me flipping the bird at the EPA). In all of my dealing with United Mine Workers, Operating Engineers, Pipefitters, SIEU, Police, Firefighters, College Professors, Labors, Factory Workers, Teamsters, Communication Workers, and public and private employees, etc. I perceived that we were working for hard working Americans including those who have lost their jobs. But, SCABS, that is a different matter. The SCABS are reducing/lowering the standard of living of the lower and middle class. Just look what is happening to wages, fringes and working conditions of the lower and middle classes. jxm>I guarantee you that Obama has lost the UMWA members. I have spent a lot of time underground and in the pits with these guys. They have noticed that Obama has made it clear that he wants to eliminate their jobs...their livelihood. ....and.....SCABS......LOL...what a joke. Why shouldn't a worker be able to say to an employer "I am willing to work for this wage with these benefits under these conditions" and not have to worry about anybody else's wage? don't you believe in the free market? Unions are the worst kind of progressive parasites. And you want to talk violence? When I was 17 years old, I worked in a restaurant in a casino. The Food Workers of America came in to organize. Here's the thing...everyone there was making great money. Sure the wage wasn't huge, but we all made great tips, we had great insurance and they gave us three GREAT meals a day. I chose to not go on strike. Why should I? I was making good money and it was a good work environment. When I crossed the picket line I was physically attacked by my former co-workers. A couple of days later the tires on my car had been slashed. What is it with you progressives, can't you reach your goals without forcing others to do things your way? I didn't want to be in a union, what right did they have to coerce me into one? And you support this? This is why progressives are morally bankrupt parasites. No, they are not crying "foul," They will escalate as far as necessary to get the job done, politically and otherwise!!!! jxm>So what you are saying is that the conservatives have to back off because the progressives will go with a scorched earth tactic. ohhhh, how scary! This is exactly why progressive parasites need to be buried now. ...oh, and I love how you use that sane voice when you point out that individuals will resort to physical violence when their self interest and livelihood are threatened. You use a nice calm voice while pointing out that there is potential violence. I'll tell ya what, threatening my livelihood is a passive-aggressive form of violence. Ever heard of Gandi!! jxm>I have, sounds like your buddies who resort to violence whenever somebody doesn't want to be forced into their way of thinking, need to study up on Gandi. Or at least go to some anger management classes. Let's see how objective you are, in the past 3 years, who do you think has dominated the media with messages of hate and violence? Is it the hateful racist tea party extremists? or is it the loving and warm progressives who just want to save the world? jxm>I see that you didn't answer this questions. I'm not surprised. The peace loving anti-war progressive democrats are the most violent people in this country.

To: Paul V. who wrote (110181)	8/17/2011 6:54:54 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie	5 Recommendations Respond to of 224737

Wow Paul! you really nailed it this time. ------------------------------------- "I perceived that we were working for hard working Americans including those who have lost their jobs. But, SCABS, that is a different matter. The SCABS are reducing/lowering the standard of living of the lower and middle class. Just look what is happening to wages, fringes and working conditions of the lower and middle classes." - Paul V "No, they are not crying "foul," They will escalate as far as necessary to get the job done, politically and otherwise!!!!" - Paul V ----------------------------------- Union thugs shoot the owner of a non-union electrician shop and etch the word "SCAB" in his vehicle breitbart.tv I guess they really will escalate as far as necessary. Very prescient of you. Are you active in organizing in Ohio? ---------------------------------------- Please clarify what you mean in, "threatening the livlihood of hard working Americans." -Paul V ---------------------------------------- I think this is a good example threatening the livelihood of hard working Americans.

To: Paul V. who wrote (110181)	8/17/2011 6:59:29 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie	6 Recommendations Respond to of 224737

Paul, did you read about MSNBC and outspoken progressive reporter, Ed Schultz editing a Rick Perry speech to make it look like he was a racist? breitbart.tv Ed Schultz issued an apology that ended up being a non-apology. He didn't even acknowledge that he lied about the context of Rick Perry's statements. You really were serious when you said "They will escalate as far as necessary to get the job done, politically and otherwise!!!!" I assume that you approve of these tactics. JXM