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To: Zakrosian who wrote (440439)8/13/2011 11:50:21 PM
From: steve harris5 Recommendations  Respond to of 794130
 
Connection? Men and women sacrifice their lives every day for you, but you view the sacrifice too great to be asked to contribute to create a little hope for dying Americans? That little bit of hope, however small it is, even if you know the patient will die anyway, is more valuable than you can imagine. That little bit of hope, even knowing it will end in failure, is what makes us human beings. The day we decide who lives and who dies based on a spreadsheet, is the day we become what we destroyed in Nazi Germany.

I understand your point of view Zakrosian, but I disagree with it.

I wonder what medical advances could have been made if the monies wasted on the global warming scam was spent on research and treatment.

It disgusts me when Obama talks about sending Grandma home with a pain pill while cutting a $2 billion dollar check so Soros can recover his investment in offshore drilling in Brazil, while at the same time hiding behind Czar Salazar issuing a seven year moratorium on drilling in the Pacific, Atlantic, and Gulf waters.

Or the monies wasted by the Goldman Sachs Department of the Treasury employee passing out billions of dollars here and overseas, because of another scam called the financial crisis, which I'm convinced not one dollar will never be audited.

The argument that we need to ration health care in order to implement ObamaCare while claiming it will reduce costs and make things better, quickly tells me we've been all sold a lie.

Yes, we can continue to afford health care to the elderly and needy.

I've concluded my discussion on this subject for the time, I've had this discussion too many times before.

Cheers



To: Zakrosian who wrote (440439)8/14/2011 11:39:33 AM
From: skinowski  Respond to of 794130
 
How about a compromise - make it available through Medicaid, but not Medicare? If you have the money, you pay for it; if you don't, then the taxpayers pick up the bill, just as we do with nursing home expenses.

I think this an interesting idea, worth exploring. Certain expenses, under certain circumstances, may need to be transferred from the realm of regular coverage into the realm of welfare. Curious thought.

Generally, the issue is complex. Once I took care of a woman who at the time was 108 years old. She was working in her garden, fell and fractured her hip. The lady had surgery, promptly recovered, and as far as I know, lived happily ever after, taking care of her plants.

Question - should the insurance cover her surgery? I think, obviously, yes. This brings up another question - What if she keeps falling because of irregular heart beats? Should Medicare coVer her pacemaker?

I say, yes. But admittedly, there are very many cases when the answer is less obvious.

Btw, as far as I know, unreconstructed alcoholics would not get a new liver under any insurance. The thinking is that they would destroy the new liver. Moreover, too many of them would be unable to follow the complicated post-surgical management with medications.